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b787

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Your English is 90% correct and everyone can understand it. No problem

Other members whose English is around your level include Deino (95% correct), Henrik (90%), Jura (85%), J-16B MRF (95%), and Yvrch (90%). These are all users whose English are slightly glitchy but, as a whole, are perfectly understandable.

Google Translate's English is ~80% correct and reading it requires concentration but it's OK for the most part. For example, whenever I read Henri Kehnman's posts, I just Google Translate the whole page from French to English and I'm able to understand everything easily.

Forbin's "English" is ~50% correct and trying to decipher it makes my head explode.

Forbin's English is not easily understandable. Oftentimes, it's not understandable at all. And I would highly appreciate it if he just typed what he wants to say in French and then used Google Translate and pasted whatever Google Translate came up with into SDF. That way, he can increase his effective English level from the current ~50% up to Google's 80% with little effort.

I'm not expecting him to magically start speaking English as fluently as a native speaker. I just want him to spend the bare minimum of effort as an act of courtesy to the rest of the forum and use Google Translate.
i know what you mean, but you have to see age is a barrier, i do not know if you are native or not but i can challenge you to write to him in French via the google translate, let us see if he understands it, i know is easy to ask learn my language but another to Speak a foreign language.

We have to be tolerant, google translate is not that good 90% accuracy means there are parts you can misunderstand and can get you a complete different meaning.


I tell you this because I speak Japanese, my son who speaks Japanese and Spanish as native, says my Japanese is horrible, he says i make many mistakes, i know it because Japanese ladies are nicer than men when you speak broken Japanese, Men usually get confused even very simple sentences some Japanese men can not understand me, If a person knows me knows what i mean, but if they are strangers, sometimes they simply think I make no sense in Japanese.

So I understand Forbin, the best is try to be nice to him, do not reply to him unless you really understand him and asking several times if you do not understand him, but believe me the translator is not a magic solution and if you want a proof write me something in Spanish and I am sure there are going to be some mistakes and i can misunderstand you
 

Figaro

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I think @FORBIN 's English is mostly comprehensible, albeit with some grammatical errors. To be fair though, I'm a native English speaker and can understand this stuff pretty well. A friendly tip to @FORBIN, please stop throwing around the word "propaganda". Just because it is a Chinese source that praises their technological achievements or holds the Chinese military in high regard (which you might not agree with) does not mean it's "propaganda". This word has a negative connotation in the English language and basically equates to flame bait when it comes to forums. Otherwise, @FORBIN 's command of the English language is adequate ... no need to criticize him too hard.
 

b787

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I think @FORBIN 's English is mostly comprehensible, albeit with some grammatical errors. To be fair though, I'm a native English speaker and can understand this stuff pretty well. A friendly tip to @FORBIN, please stop throwing around the word "propaganda". Just because it is a Chinese source that praises their technological achievements or holds the Chinese military in high regard (which you might not agree with) does not mean it's "propaganda". This word has a negative connotation in the English language and basically equates to flame bait when it comes to forums. Otherwise, @FORBIN 's command of the English language is adequate ... no need to criticize him too hard.
In my opinion the word Propaganda is not bad, it does happen, it is a reality of life, all governments practice it, even companies do it.

The problem is intolerance by both sides, and trying to convince the other side at any cost, plus ganging upon one dissident voice and claiming foul play.

The best is just do not insist upon one`s opinion, and listen the moderator`s commands to stop when the command is given.

But you can not asking stop saying there is not propaganda, or China has not a propaganda Machine, the problem is trying to convince the other side at any cost.
Specially when some one is not Chinese or ethnic Chinese we tend to have a more critical view.

But of course the best, is respect each other and that is never insult and listen the mods command if it is given.
 

PiSigma

"the engineer"
I don't know where u guys got google translate being good. I am in France right now (ATM in Nimes) and I am having a hard time with google translating menus and questions.
 

FORBIN

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I don't know where u guys got google translate being good. I am in France right now (ATM in Nimes) and I am having a hard time with google translating menus and questions.
Bonjour, about 200 km from me, bon séjour chez moi :)
Légion Etrangère and former base for Atlantique 2 now firefighters aircrafts

And yes translation approximative !
 

PiSigma

"the engineer"
Bonjour, about 200 km from me, bon séjour chez moi :)

And yes translation approximative !
Where u located? I am having a great time in France. Started in Lyon, then went to Alsace, Loire valley, sarlat, Carcassonne and now Provence. Heading back to Lyon tomorrow then flying home.
 

FORBIN

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Where u located? I am having a great time in France. Started in Lyon, then went to Alsace, Loire valley, sarlat, Carcassonne and now Provence. Heading back to Lyon tomorrow then flying home.
Sorry i can' t say but i live in Provence born to Cannes, nice trip your lucky ! the world is small, to Toulon you have the Forbin ;)
 

taxiya

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I am talking to @FORBIN, so obviously French to English ... which is almost perfect result
Indeed. I have visited France twice for many weeks, using google translation was good enough. Actually to be fair, google translation is very good (accurate) in translating among major European languages, I have tried Spanish, English, German, Swedish, Danish etc. It is only useless when translating between European and Asian languages or among Chinese, Japanese and Korean (grammatically unrelated).
 
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