JH-7/JH-7A/JH-7B Thread

plawolf

Lieutenant General
Re: JH-7/JH-7A Thread

the issue with the JH-7 or most indigenous chinese aircraft for that matter is all we have to go on is their technical specifications. As far as I'm aware none of these aircraft has ever been tested in combat so their true capabilities remains unknown. I am also unaware of these aircraft being tested in exercises that replicate real combat conditions such as Red Flag or other multinational war games nor do we even how good the chinese aggressor squadrons are. Maybe someone who is very familiar with PLAN or PLAAF can chime in.

How much of a test did the Libyans truly offer the likes of the Rafale or Typhoon?

Unless you fought a worthy adversary, 'combat proven' is just another marketing gimmick and is way over-rated. Does anyone seriously think the likes of the F15 or F16 would enjoy anywhere close to their 'combat proven' kill ratios if they went up against Soviet/Russian Mig29s and Su27s?

So what did the wars these western planes have flown in tell us about their true capabilities?

Besides, the JH7s have taken part in joint Chinese-Russian anti-terror exercises. But I do not see how that makes it a more or less valid exercise than what the JH7 crews practice by themselves.

Hell, international events like Red Flag is probably less intensive in terms of training difficulty than what the participants do by themselves at home because of the strict RoEs imposed at such events by both the organisers and participants themselves, as no-one wants to risk an incident at such events, and everyone hold back a little as they do not want others to get a true gauge of how good their men and machines are or learn too much about their tactics.
 

escobar

Brigadier
Re: JH-7/JH-7A Thread

KD-88 ASM

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i.e.

Senior Member
Re: Jh-7 thread

OPPS
realized was reply to a oollllddd thread. delete.
 
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Jeff Head

General
Registered Member
Re: Jh-7 thread

actually, JH-7 was originally developed as a multi-role fighter like the tornado, but then it stunk as a multirole fighter. So, it has become China's attacker/bomber now. It seems to settle somewhere in between H-6 and Q-5. With the latest pods, missiles and avionics, JH-7A is actually very good at what it does. It's precision strike ability is supposed to be superior to that of mkk.
Seems to me to be fulfilling the role of the US FB-111. Nice comparison too:

PLAAF and PLAN JH-7
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US AIR FORCE FB-11
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BTW, here's one of my favorite photos of the J-20:

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i.e.

Senior Member
Re: Jh-7 thread

Seems to me to be fulfilling the role of the US FB-111. Nice comparison too:

the originally PLAAF requirement called out almost exactly as the FB-111 . tactical strike. to stop soviet tanks formations.
two side by side seats to facilitate night attacks.

also I think chinese did get a downed FB-111's cockpit in vietnam to take a look at.

but PLAAF version didn't go.

PLAN's missile striker did get a green light. which is the tandem seat version you see today.

also interesting enough, the Spey mk202 engine whcih is on JH-7, was actually a good standin for TF-30. and is in similar class.
 
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