JH-7/JH-7A/JH-7B Thread

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Yeah it might be, although I tend to think that the two pictures are of the same unit. Or the probability for such is higher. I would personally think that the 2nd regiment of the 6th Division did indeed receive JH-7As.

That's the point ... as both pictures are from the same video, I suppose they are from the same unit ... but they clearly shows an early machine in the first and an A-version in the second picture, which would proof Your claim !

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My opinion is that some JH-7 Block 2 from the second regiment of the 6th Division were moved to the first regiment, and the second regiment would later receive JH-7A to complete the balance needed for an operational regiment. In my opinion, the original JH-7s Block 1 in the first regiment would have been upgraded by now to Block 2 in a rotating basis.

I think I've found a "hint" - I won't say proof at least ... but maybe - for that modernisation. If You compare older, earyl pre-serials, then You can notice these small rectangular insertions in the radome ... in comparison to the later Block 02 aircraft - also with the green radome - which have a constant radome-edge.

If You now compare aircraft no. 81866 on these two picture You can notice the difference in the radome and in the antenna fit.

Addittionally here's a small preview of "our" work from the last weeeks .... (only one KD-88 equipped machine si missing) :D
 

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That's quite reasonable especially why keeping a small fleet with an unreliable and not as powerfull radar, when another new one performs much better.

A small hint - even if I'm not sure (maybe someone can help to identify the numbers - can be the machines with that strange EW-pods: In that film there's clearly no. 82162 visible - an Block 02 machine - and later one there are JH-7A's also with the pod ... (see pic below)... but that could also be a machine from the 9. Division !? :confused:

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PS: No ideas on the other questions !?

according to the latest issue of aviation week, China is developing DRFM (digital RF memory) for PLAAF jammer,design to jam airborne radar.
 

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Naval JH-7As from the 9th Division PLANAF. Plus a few friends for the exercise.
 

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And more.
 

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Finally the last set.
 

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This contains an interview with JH-7A's main program director/engineer
talks about the difference between the roles of JH-7A and J-10s.
It talks about how JH-7A's involvement in peace mission 2007 and how the pilots love flying it.

probably the most interesting part lies here.
talks about the difference between the JH-7 displayed in 1998 and the current FBC-1.
It talks about having fully diigital FBW, using glass cockpit, HOTAS controller, increased payload, 11% higher takeoff weight, talks about the indigenous, advanced and complete radar/avionics system for JH-7A. It allows the use of many indigenous weapons and such.
 

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Original interview preserved for archive use

飞豹总师:网友对飞豹性能猜测和期待多切合实际

环球时报驻珠海特派记者郝珺石报道:近日,环球时报记者就网友一些最关心的问题,对飞豹系列飞机总设计师唐长红进行了独家专访,领教了这次参加珠海航展的飞豹飞机的强悍与力量。

记者:唐总您好,这次珠海航展,空军派出了飞豹与歼10两种代表着中国先进水平的两种作战飞机,请问这两种战机的区别在哪里?

唐总:飞豹系列飞机是我国自主研制的中重型、超音速、全天候歼击轰炸机,是我国目前的进攻性主战机种,主要担负防区外对海、对地全天候精确打击的任务;歼-10飞机是一种以空对空作战为主的防御型战斗(歼击)机。

记者:那您能介绍一下为什么空军会要求研制以对面进攻为主要任务的新飞豹战机呢?新飞豹相比1998年时参展的飞豹战机有了那些区别和改进?现在飞豹的威力主要体现在那些性能特点上,它的机载雷达性能怎么样?

唐总:根据杜黑《制空权》理论,制空权是赢得一切战争胜利的前提,对于夺取制空权的方法,杜黑认为就是采取空中进攻行动,摧毁敌机于地面,而通过空战或采取其它防御性措施是不可能夺取制空权的。一支能够有效地夺取制空权的空军,应该以进攻型飞机占主体。世纪之交,国内外形势风云变幻,当时的中国急迫需要一支能够决定战争胜负的进攻性力量,中国空军也从国土防空向“攻防兼备”转型,新一型的飞豹战机应运而生。

这次参加航展的飞豹战机,从外形上看与以前的飞豹战机差别不大,但它们之间的根本差别在于性能和作战能力上。

由于有了新需求新任务,现在的飞豹用新技术淘汰了一些已经不够先进的技术,比如新飞豹的飞行控制系统,已经由模拟电传操纵替换为电传操纵系统,还实现了玻璃化座舱,手不离杆操纵等先进的技术……现在的飞豹战机,载弹量也大大提升,最大起飞重量提高达11%,但真正使飞豹战机获得脱胎换骨变化的是新型的国产航电系统,它不但减轻了飞行员在作战中的负担,还使得飞豹能携带的对地、对海武器的数量和种类大大增加,其中很多都是先进的精确制导武器,而且使现在的飞豹具有很强的扩展能力,具备了进一步发展的潜力。

关于现在飞豹飞机的雷达,我可以告诉大家,对于一种兼具对地和对空进行精确作战的多用途战机,它的雷达一定是非常先进,功能非常齐全的(笑)。

记者:大家知道,新飞豹已经在空军中担负起至关重要的任务,空军的飞豹战机还参加了2007-和平使命中俄联合军演,请问唐总,空军部队对于新飞豹的有什么评价?飞行员口中“最好用的战机”是什么意思?

唐总:空军认为现在这种飞豹战机有了质的提高,可靠性和实用性好,使空军的作战样式和作战范围都有了很大的丰富和提高,对于飞行员“最好用的飞机”的评价,因该是飞行员对飞豹人机工程设计的肯定,可以让飞行员在飞行中感觉得心应手,但我相信对于飞豹系列飞机来说,没有最好只有更好,飞豹系列飞机一定还有不断的进步和发展。
记者:唐总,飞豹系列飞机一直是网友眼中的焦点之一,在网上一直有着热烈的讨论,您对于网友对飞豹系列飞机的一些看法和观点有什么感想?

唐总:我本人非常喜欢上网,知道网友们对飞豹系列飞机的评论很多,我非常关心网友对它的讨论,军事爱好者们对于飞豹系列飞机的评价、性能的猜测和未来的期待很多都是切合实际的(笑)。

大家对于飞豹系列飞机的批评和意见,是我们设计人员继续研制更好的飞机的动力和方向,如果能够得到大家的好评,那么作为飞机设计团队中的一员,我会感到非常欣慰。

记者:唐总,那么很多网友想知道,在研制了新飞豹之后,一飞院是否已经具备了研制满足要求的下一代战机的能力?

唐总:飞豹系列飞机的研制过程完成了设计队伍的新老交替,也让我体会到了前辈们的不容易,现在的飞豹,集合了老一辈设计人员的经验和新一代设计人员的智慧。一个型号的研制成功,必然意味着造就了一批人才,这样的工程的收获,一是带出了人才,二是提高了技术,三才是获得了新装备。

作为一飞院本身,就担负着研制新一代战机的使命,经历过多个型号的磨练,我们的技术在不断的提高,对于这个问题,答案是肯定的。

记者:唐总,我最后提一个广大网友最关心的一个问题,如果不幸战争今天就降临在我们头上,代表“中国力量”的新飞豹战机是否能够承担起国家和人民交付的重担?

唐总:请大家放心,新飞豹从设计到建造,每一个零件完完全全都是依靠我们自己的“中国力量”,绝对不需要依赖外国的支撑,我想,新飞豹完成祖国和人民赋予它的神圣使命是完全没有问题的。




Google translation of the interview.

Feibao total division: Flying Leopard users on the performance of speculation and look forward to more realistic

Global Times special correspondent in Zhuhai Shi Jun Hao: Recently, the Global Times correspondent on the number of users are most concerned about, the Flying Leopard Tang, chief designer of long-range aircraft carried out an exclusive interview with red, the experience of flying to attend the air show in Zhuhai Leopard aircraft with powerful forces.

Reporter: Hello Tang total, the Zhuhai Air Show, the Air Force dispatched F-10 flying with the leopard represents two of China's advanced level of the two combat aircraft, is the difference between the two planes where?

Tang total: Feibao series aircraft is in our self-made heavy, supersonic, all-weather fighter-bomber, China's current offensive main types of fighters, mainly responsible for stand-off on the sea, on land the all-weather precision strike missions; -10 F Aircraft air-to-air combat is a mainly defensive battle (fighter) aircraft.

Reporter: Can you tell us why the Air Force will be asked to develop offensive across the main tasks for the new Flying Leopard fighter then? New Flying Leopard compared to 1998 when the exhibition Flying Leopard fighter who has the distinction and improve? Flying Leopard now mainly in the power of those on the performance characteristics of its on-board radar-like performance how?

General Tang: According to the Duhei "air supremacy" theory, is to win all of the air war on the premise that the way to seize control of the air, Duhei that is to take offensive action in the air, destroying enemy aircraft on the ground, and through the air or take other defensive measures It is impossible to seize the control of the air. An effective air force to seize control of the air, should be accounted for the main attack aircraft. At the turn of the century, domestic and international situation changes, China at the time of an urgent need to be able to decide the outcome of a war offensive force, Air China from land to air "both offensive and defensive capabilities" in transition, a new type of Flying Leopard fighter came into being .

The air show participation in the Flying Leopard fighter from the point of view and appearance before the Flying Leopard fighter is not very different, but the fundamental difference between them lies in the performance and combat capability.

Thanks to the new demands and new tasks, the Flying Leopard with the new technology has not eliminated a number of advanced technologies, such as the Flying Leopard's new flight control system has been simulated by the fly-by-wire replacement for the fly-by-wire systems, also achieved a glass Of the cockpit, always hand-under-the-art technology, such as manipulation ... ... now the Flying Leopard fighter, and also Zaidan Liang increase in maximum take-off weight of 11% to improve, but so was reborn Flying Leopard fighter change is a new type of China-made avionics System, which not only reduced the combat pilots of the burden, but also makes flying leopard can carry on the way to the sea in the number and types of weapons increased, many of which are advanced precision-guided weapons, but also now have the Flying Leopard The strong expansion of capacity, with the potential for further development.

Flying Leopard now on the radar aircraft, I can tell you that, for both an air-to-earth and accurate multi-purpose combat aircraft, and its radar is not a very advanced, very full (laughs).

Reporter: As we all know, the new Leopard has been flying in the Air Force take on the vital task of the Air Force's Flying Leopard fighter planes also participated in 2007 - the peace mission of the Sino-Russian joint military exercise, I would like to ask the General Tang, the new air force to fly the Leopard there What evaluation? Pilot population, "the best use of the aircraft," What does this mean?

Tang total: that the Air Force fighters Flying Leopard now has to raise the quality, reliability and practicality, so that the air force's combat modes and scope of operations has made the rich and raise for pilots, "the best use of the aircraft "The assessment is a result of the pilot to fly to the ergonomic design of the leopard in the affirmative, will allow pilots in flight feel comfortable, but I believe that the leopard family of aircraft to fly, there is no best, only better, leopard series aircraft to fly a certain There is constant progress and development.
Reporter: General Tang, Feibao series aircraft in the eyes of users has been the focus of one of the Internet has been a heated debate, for your friends to the leopard family aircraft to fly some of the views and perspectives have any thoughts?

General Tang: I love the Internet, users know that the leopard family of aircraft to fly to the comments of many, I am very concerned about it online discussion, for fans of military aircraft flying leopard assessment of the performance of speculation and many look forward to the future Are realistic (laughter).

For all aircraft flying leopard series of criticisms and opinions of our designers continue to develop a better impetus and direction of the aircraft, if you will be well received, the aircraft design as a team, I would be very pleased.

Reporter: Tang of the total, would like to know a lot of friends in the development of the new Flying Leopard, a flying hospital has been equipped to meet the requirements of the development of next-generation fighter's ability?

Tang total: Feibao Series aircraft development process is complete, the design team of younger, I also realize that the predecessors of it is not easy, the Flying Leopard, a collection of the older generation of designers experience and a new generation of designers Wisdom. The successful development of a model necessarily means bringing up a number of talented people, such a project gains, first brought out the human resources and improve the technology, is the third received new equipment.

As a flying hospital itself, charged with the mission of developing a new generation of fighter planes, has experienced a number of Model temper of our technology in continuous improvement, for the problem, the answer is yes.

Reporter: Tang of the total, I finally put a majority of the users are most concerned about a problem, unfortunately, if this war comes to our heads, on behalf of the "China forces" of the new Flying Leopard fighter is able to take delivery of the country and the people of the burden?

Tang total: Please be assured that the new Flying Leopard from design to construction, each of the parts are completely rely on our own, "China forces" there is absolutely no need to rely on foreign support, I would like the new Flying Leopard given to the completion of the motherland and the people It is the sacred mission with absolutely no problem.
 
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any mention of AESA program?few years ago,there's report that AVIC id developing tow decoy .this year airshow, I do not see any avionic system.
 

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国最新歼轰八歼击战略轰炸机已脱胎换骨
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  西安飞机第一设计院603所和沈飞正在联合发展研制最新一代的双座歼击战略轰炸机。该轰炸机航程可达7000公里。该项目2004年立项,2005年一月中央军委副主席郭伯雄亲自视察,对该型号研制方面取得的成绩充分肯定并高度评价。这种轰炸机高度机密,中国航空第一集团内部军方视察录像显示,新一代并列双座轰炸机的模型开始风洞结构试验。
军方一直对双座歼击战略轰炸机有浓厚兴趣,这种飞机集歼击轰炸和战略轰炸于一身,用于实施对海上和地面目标打击,其次是用于空中格斗,因而同时具备了歼轰7A战斗机的战术格斗性能和轰六轰炸机的远程对海上和地面目标打击能力。
歼轰八战略轰炸机设计要求为驾驶舱可容纳两名驾驶员并坐,采用两台装有矢量喷嘴和加力燃烧AL31F发动机国产型,具备战略轰炸能力。经一次空中加油的航程达到7000公里,安装有后视雷达和多功能相控阵雷达,可以携带国产先进空对空、空对地导弹。歼轰八并未采用前置鸭翼,这和苏―32截然不同,巨大的扁平机头,机身机翼菱形融合,减少雷达横截面,类似美国的F18E/F大黄蜂。装备新型国产无源相控阵雷达,可发现和同时跟踪X个空中目标,并同时引导空空导弹攻击其中Y个,具有导航/攻击、地形跟随和地形回避模式,发现驱逐舰类目标的距离为135千米,发现歼击机类目标的距离为120千米。最大航程4000 公里,经空中加油后可达7000公里。设计要求有15个外挂点,可装载8吨武器。能够携带包括各种先进导弹、激光制导炸弹,以及各种火箭和集束炸弹等。

article from top81.com.cn report that Xian is developing a follow on to JH-7.the fighter bomber will be power by two AL-31F,mid air refuel will provide the aircraft 7000km range,fitted with PESA radar,can detect destroyer size target at 135km range.
the aircraft will resemble F-18E/F
 
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