JH-7/JH-7A/JH-7B Thread


MastanKhan

Junior Member
Also why would Pakistan want an aircraft thats a generation behind of its counterpart( su-30MKI)? It doesn't make sense stratgically and economically.
Hi,

If you are not familiar with the strike capabilities of the JH7A---I am not here to baby sit you---. Google has a lots of information on it and so does defence dot PK forum---.

There is no comparison between the two aircraft other than that they fly---.
 

MastanKhan

Junior Member
He used his understanding on China international policy and military doctrine to come up with such statement, which I agree. China is going to maintain a balanced relationship with India in order to create a relatively peaceful atomsphere in the region, regardless of the Indo/Paki relationship, and selling JH-7As to Pakistan will only provoke India and further destablize the region's fragile peace. Plus by selling an out of production aircraft to Pakistan means that China will need to reopen the plane's production line to produce adquate amount of spares, which will result in higher cost and lower workforce volume to produce other in-production planes. So it's a lose-lose situation for all sides.

Hi,

Your kind keep asking us for LINKS to prove what we write---.

Why don't your kind provide us links to prove otherwise that it won't happen---.

By the by---check with your " common sense link " and find out what came to pakistan from china in the last one year while people were busy looking elsewhere like the J10's, J11's, J15's Jh7A's---.

Try to find out---your jaw might hit the ground---.
 

yuxiaochen

Junior Member
Hi,

Don't insult me---I am speaking to you politely---.

Give me an answer---what authority do you have that china won't give the JH7A's to pakistan for free---free as in F R E E---.

What privy information that you have about china govt that you made that claim---.

Why don't you post a link from the chinese govt that they won't do it---.

Why do we people who claim that they would---have to prove every time that they would---.

Talk is cheap Deino and you are the cheapest talker---.

You have made a claim against china---show us a link that they won't do it---.

Common sense---my foot---. You are a SPY---since when did you have common sense---.
WTF? Bro did you just get out of a mental hospital?
How about you show us ANY FACTUAL information on why China will provide Paikistan with JH7 first
also YOU did not speak to neither him nor me politely, so you will be treated as garbage
Why don't you post a link that shows the chinese government will do it huh
You need to stop stirring up S#%TS in this forum
Made a claim against china? dude what kind of weed are you smoking? i want some LMFAO
 

plawolf

Brigadier
The JH7 is not going to be sold to Pakistan.

Could Pakistan benefit from JH7s? Of course.

But would the gains justify the costs? Not really.

Considering that the type is out of production and existing airframes have been operational for some time, the only way there will be a sale is if the PLAAF/PLANAF retires part or all of their fleet.

That doesn’t seem on the cards for years yet, and by the time the PLAAF moves on, there won’t be many airframe hours left on existing birds.

Pakistan really doesn’t need the full capabilities of the JH7, nor does it have the support to make full use of these.

The biggest advantage the JH7 brings to the table that cannot be addressed by anything else already in the PAF’s existing inventory is range and payload. But the JH7 itself is a lumbering bomb truck. The AAMs it carries are pretty much a token gesture at best. So to fully exploit its range, you really need heavy, long range fighters to escort it, which the PAF lacks.

Similarly, the payload advantage of the JH7 is significantly hampered by China broadly following the rules of MRC despite not being a member by limiting export missiles to 300km range or less.

Without fighter support, JH7s would have little chance against fighter CAP from Indian carriers, so its range doesn’t really mean all that much.

Similarly, without big, ultra long range missiles to fully exploit its payload capabilities to fire, just what is the justification for having the type?

For countering the IN, Pakistan already has JF17s to carry the latest Chinese anti ship missiles and anything they might develop domestically in the short and medium term. In the long term, drones and subs are a much better investment.
 

Deino

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Hi,

Don't insult me---I am speaking to you politely---.

Give me an answer---what authority do you have that china won't give the JH7A's to pakistan for free---free as in F R E E---.

What privy information that you have about china govt that you made that claim---.

Why don't you post a link from the chinese govt that they won't do it---.

Why do we people who claim that they would---have to prove every time that they would---.

Talk is cheap Deino and you are the cheapest talker---.

You have made a claim against china---show us a link that they won't do it---.

Common sense---my foot---. You are a SPY---since when did you have common sense---.

Are you mad?? You are again diverting the discussion by questioning any opponent's credibility while at the same time posting nonsense and avoid all arguments. :mad:

It's exactly like claiming you've seen little green men on Mars and only you know it while you demand proof for the contrary from those who don't agree. A most lame argument and in fact embarrassing for such an old man of your standing.

Ok. I have as a poster exactly the same authority for such a claim like you, but I have the benefit of two arguments:

- the JH-7 is out of production.
- when ever delivered the PLAAF a dedicated offensive striker from own stocks to Pakistan?

Since you seem to rate yourself as a man of all-knowing, you surely can explain and answer.

And finally your tone is in no way friendly: You are always aggressive, insulting and rude against anyone with a different opinion. Just take a look at the most recent discussion at the PDF, where you constantly acted rude against others, you were calling for the Webmaster to shut us down ... and in the end "YOUR" thread was closed and you were banned. :p;)

So much on your way of acting in forums, the only difference here is, here are none or at best only a few of your horde of fan-boys, who support whatever BS you post ... or shall i remind to the discussion on systems , weapons and engines the JF-17 Block 3 can use?

Just in case someone whats a good laugh or eventually You could explain here why you agreed on all accounts?!

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by78

Brigadier
But these images are surely several years old.

By the way this looks like A2 023 ... so maybe JH-7A Batch no. 02 - aircraft no. 23?

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Yes they are, since JH-7A production stopped sometime ago. These are merely screen captures of archive footage that was shown in a recent TV segment. I wanted to share them because there had been few images of the production line.
 

Deino

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Yes they are, since JH-7A production stopped sometime ago. These are merely screen captures of archive footage that was shown in a recent TV segment. I wanted to share them because there had been few images of the production line.

Thank you so much!
 

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