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DoD 2+2 joint statement out:

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I surmised the CSIS wargame was designed to sell JP increased access to US hardware was timed with 2+2. Access to whole of JP including main islands not just south islands where assets would be even less survivable. IMO JP will have to give something to US pressure eventually, and if only expanding to limited to southern region good indicator JP still not full retard enough to open main island to PRC strikes. As preannounced, currently based 12th Marine on Okinawa will be reorganized into MLR for 2025. From what gather, still limited to ~2,000 troops. Access to JP main islands and Palawan in PH seems integral to US war planning / PRC containment, signs of resistance to open these regions up for US deployment, even if concession given else, is indicator of PRC advantage and as good it can get under current geopolitical climate.
 

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DoD 2+2 joint statement out:

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I surmised the CSIS wargame was designed to sell JP increased access to US hardware was timed with 2+2. Access to whole of JP including main islands not just south islands where assets would be even less survivable. IMO JP will have to give something to US pressure eventually, and if only expanding to limited to southern region good indicator JP still not full retard enough to open main island to PRC strikes. As preannounced, currently based 12th Marine on Okinawa will be reorganized into MLR for 2025. From what gather, still limited to ~2,000 troops. Access to JP main islands and Palawan in PH seems integral to US war planning / PRC containment, signs of resistance to open these regions up for US deployment, even if concession given else, is indicator of PRC advantage and as good it can get under current geopolitical climate.
The US already has bases throughout the home islands e.g. Yokosuka, Sasebo, Misawa etc. etc. and as much access as it deems required under the Anpo treaty.

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The US already has bases throughout the home islands e.g. Yokosuka, Sasebo, Misawa etc. etc. and as much access as it deems required under the Anpo treaty.

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US is currently _limited_ to access to select bases on home islands. By "increased" access to all of JP, I mean they want access to every civilian airfiend for survivable / dispersed deployment per Agile Combat Support.
 

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US is currently _limited_ to access to select bases on home islands. By "increased" access to all of JP, I mean they want access to every civilian airfiend for survivable / dispersed deployment per Agile Combat Support.
Agile Combat Support is an Air Force-centric programme. If they want survivability for their forces and assets across the branches esp. the Navy via joint commands/facilities, they gonna need more than ACS to make their case.
 

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Agile Combat Support is an Air Force-centric programme. If they want survivability for their forces and assets across the branches esp. the Navy via joint commands/facilities, they gonna need more than ACS to make their case.

I don't see where we're disagreeing, US wants increased access across the board, with ACE being one example, army + marines wants more missiles in theatre, and IMO both more important to increased naval access. USN not going to be resupplying in JP in event of war. Issue is the, the case for increasing access / hardware deployment in main islands is same case for openning these islands to PRC attack. Everyone knows this, and I don't see a better narrative to get JP to buy in other than to prevent TW war via deterrence coming out from US admins in the past few years. Their case is to make JP whole of main islands a front line, and JPs response so far has been, how about these southern islands.
 

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I don't see where we're disagreeing, US wants increased access across the board, with ACE being one example, army + marines wants more missiles in theatre, and IMO both more important to increased naval access. USN not going to be resupplying in JP in event of war. Issue is the, the case for increasing access / hardware deployment in main islands is same case for openning these islands to PRC attack. Everyone knows this, and I don't see a better narrative to get JP to buy in other than to prevent TW war via deterrence coming out from US admins in the past few years. Their case is to make JP whole of main islands a front line, and JPs response so far has been, how about these southern islands.
What makes you think we're disagreeing? The US' intention for joint use of JP assets and bases in that statement is pretty transparent.
I only pointed out USFJ already has extensive presence throughout the entirety of Japan. The country is already open to attack on Anpo alone regardless of where in the entire archipelago either the US or Japan want to set up even more bases.

Your suggestion of additional US access to JSDF and even civilian infrastructure in reference to ACS is a sketchy proposition at best as that is the USAF's own operational doctrine, not the JASDF's (and I'm not even sure we've heard any instances of the USAF commandeering civilian infrastructure as weapons and munitions caches in accordance with ACS). So to make the logistical and command & control requirements work under the ACS framework, you'd have to fold the JASDF into the USAF's own force structure, and that's only on the air force side like I also pointed out.

The USN can and would absolutely support the USAF with supplies, logistics and basing e.g.
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, that's what ACE is, while the Navy has their own ACE called Distributed Maritime Operation (DMO).

 
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