J-35A fighter (PLAAF) + FC-31

Nevermore

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What does it mean?
“云龙 Yunlong” literally translates to “cloud dragon.” Originally referring to the combination of clouds and dragons, it carries connotations of natural imagery, cultural symbolism, and historical artifacts. Examples include: clouds and dragons, the dragon itself, metaphors for heroic figures, the epithet for fine horses, and tea cakes stamped with dragon patterns.
 

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I'm not sure if this has been posted before, but the Chinese designation for the J-35A has been confirmed as "云龙 Yunlong." The source is a screenshot from the CCTV Military program "Military Enthusiast's Eye" shared on the official media WeChat account. However, with so many official videos and posts, I haven't been able to trace the earliest source of this information yet.

Another gripe: When I searched for "Chinese weapons" on Deepseek, it immediately stopped processing my query. This is because the Chinese government earlier mandated that AI companies also restrict and censor military-related content. However, when I subsequently used Doubao and Baidu's AI, they were able to answer questions about Chinese military equipment without issue.

So the PLA gives different names to variants. PLANAF-exclusive aircraft are all Sharks, if I recall. So if the J-35A is the Cloud Dragon, what would the J-35 be?

Unless "Cloud Dragon" refers to the entire J-35 family (all variants included)?
 

Nevermore

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So the PLA gives different names to variants. PLANAF-exclusive aircraft are all Sharks, if I recall. So if the J-35A is the Cloud Dragon, what would the J-35 be?

Unless "Cloud Dragon" refers to the entire J-35 family (all variants included)?
The name Cloud Dragon specifically refers to the J-35A. The J-35 continues to use a shark-themed designation, with military enthusiasts currently speculating based on unofficial sources that it may be named “Blue Shark.”(蓝鲨)
 

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Another nice magazine scan.

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Alvaritus

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Sometimes I wonder if they could adapt the 2D TVC to the J-35 (like the ones in the J-XDS)... I read that for the J-20 this was evaluated and deemed not worth the trade-off.

What do you think about it?
 

Atomicfrog

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Sometimes I wonder if they could adapt the 2D TVC to the J-35 (like the ones in the J-XDS)... I read that for the J-20 this was evaluated and deemed not worth the trade-off.

What do you think about it?
It depend of what you want...

For:
2d TVC could help all aspect stealth, IR shielding
2d TVC could help manoeuvrability

Against:
2d TVC is heavier so it would cut payload/range
2d TVC will leach out some engine power, so would it cut payload/range, acceleration, top speed and climb rate
2d TVC bring more maintenance and is probably costlier

Lot of trade-off...worth it ?
 
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It depend of what you want...

For:
2d TVC could help all aspect stealth
2d TVC could help manoeuvrability

Against:
2d TVC is heavier so it cut payload/range
2d TVC will leach out some engine power, so it cut payload/range and climb rate
2d TVC bring more maintenance and is probably costlier

Lot of trade-off...worth it ?

You can’t have all aspect stealth in fifth gen due to vertical slabs. Best you can do is enhance rearward stealth, but engine blockers do heavier lifting than 2D TVC nozzles.
 

Atomicfrog

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You can’t have all aspect stealth in fifth gen due to vertical slabs. Best you can do is enhance rearward stealth, but engine blockers do heavier lifting than 2D TVC nozzles.
Yes.. vertical stabs dont help. 2d could help in IR shielding from the sides. Still if you show your rear end in range of the enemy you have done something wrong anyway...
 
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