J-20... The New Generation Fighter II

Wow I can't believe you're predicting what the freakin CIA would do in response to the J-20...

I can counter your argument that China's own MSS will have simply redflagged said CIA or DARPA or whatever agents and denied them a visa? Or they're bribing the indigenous population to take photos and RCS readings? Oh wait I know how we've gotten so many good J-20 pics lately -- the photographers must be using CIA supplied lenses which explains the sudden increase in picture quality!

I'm not even sure if this response is adequete... I honestly cannot find a suitable word to describe your proposition but I gotta give you props for being imaginative and thinking outside the box.

Ever watch the Frontline documentary, From China with Love, on the spy games between the US and China? US ground intelligence in China is basically nil. People like Tom Clancy use the stereotype that Americans spies can woo intelligence from Chinese women when it's actuality the other way around. There's a running joke in China that it's easy to spot the American spy because they're usually the cliche stereotype of an American tourist out in the wrong place. Why is that is because, as it has been exposed with similar trouble American intelligence has with the Middle East, the establishment doesn't trust the very ethnicities whether American citizens or not to be spies for them. As portrayed in the movie the Good Shepard, early on those who founded the CIA didn't trust anyone to be spies for them except those who had a stake in the well-being of the US. Which is why those recruited early on were from rich well-to-do and only white American families. Really, if it were so easy to get intelligence out of China, there wouldn't be all these calls for the Chinese military to be transparent.

And really, sending three dozen men would not really do a better job than say three men. It will just increase their chance of getting found out and getting busted together.

I am spotting a definite negative correlation between the number of Asymptote's posts and the general quality of threads. Even the frigging J20 size guessing contest is better than this latest tangent.

Can we please get back to the J20?

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MwRYum said:

That is, if somebody at CIA / DARPA or whatever can cramp such gizmos into something as small as an iPhone, then it'd be another kind of ballgame.

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hide X-band radar into iPhone? ROFL
even one will drive on something like FBX-T to CAC airfield fence, being unvisible, he will soon recall about small things called radar reflectors and Luneburg lenses

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That reminds me of the running joke that the US was spoofed when they spotted a lot of "missile silos" at Szechuan region, only after the reform in the 80s then they can send an embassy staff / CIA station staff, posed as tourist, to survey there and only then discovered those were in fact traditional Hakka clan house...

flateric said:

hide X-band radar into iPhone? ROFL
even one will drive on something like FBX-T to CAC airfield fence, being unvisible, he will soon recall about small things called radar reflectors and Luneburg lenses

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I know that, and I believe you do know what I was really implying...

But let's put it this way, such amount of gear you need at least a van-sized vehicle to cramp in one, and have such vehicles driving around the airfield would be...well, the local law enforcement / counterintelligence would have to be blind as a bat to not notice one.

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defaultuser1 said:

Spy satellites have resolutions of 5 centimeters. I doubt they'd need to send people in to take photos.

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If I'm not mistaken a 5 cm resolution means each pixel represents a 5x5 square, which would mean that an object 20 meters long would be 400 pixels. Not very detailed IMO. If I got it wrong and it actually means each pixel represents a 5 cm^2 area, that's about 900 pixels in length. Still not very detailed.

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flateric said:

hide X-band radar into iPhone? ROFL
even one will drive on something like FBX-T to CAC airfield fence, being unvisible, he will soon recall about small things called radar reflectors and Luneburg lenses

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Why not? The device need only to record the radar reflectivity of a small area of the J-20 surface. Without the electronics for the FCS or missile guidance system, it could be made small enough for a handphone. The harder part is to get an unsuspecting fella to "take photos" for a very good fee.

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