J-20 5th Generation Fighter VII

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Blitzo

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I must admit, I'm surprised and confused since what happened during the last days, totally exceeds my expectations ... as such still connected with a HUGE IF I tried to put this together:

IF these cn-number indeed use the same pattern we know from CAC and as such represent the numbers of J-20s built, then based on what we have so far (XX0011, CB0018, CB0121 & CB0256) there is one LRIP/prototype batch (XX), two batches with AL-31FN powered ones (CB00xx & CB01xx) and one batch using WS-10C (CB002xx).

So again - IF correct - then:

XX0011 = LRIP batch = at least 11, if not 12
CB0018 = first production batch (AL-31FN) = at least 18, if not 20-24
CB0121 = second production batch (AL-31FN) = at least 21 if not 20-24
CB0256 = third production batch (WS-10C) = at least 56


= 106 minimum or up to 12 + 2x 24 + 56 = 116.

In any case, we need more such construction numbers.

Any corrections and comments welcome!


I agree -- and to be honest, reaching about 100 airframes by late 2021 and slightly over 100 airframes by early 2022 is pretty reasonable and in line with some of our guesses in the past.
We were all assuming that CAC had been getting underway with more consistent J-20 production, meaning we should have expected something like this to happen -- i.e.: a relatively sudden expansion of numbers by a couple of dozen.

It certainly correlates with the total number of airframes that have been produced in terms of recent prototypes, in terms of airframes that Dingxin and Cangzhou have received, and based on the air brigades that we know have been fitted out or are being fitted out.
 

latenlazy

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Take this with a ton of salt (since the author is primarily an SAC observer), but the OP of this thread implies that a thrust vectored variant of WS-10 will be used on the J-20. He urged everyone not to confuse it with WS-15.

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Stumbled onto this while looking at old posts. This seems relevant to our discussions about the identity of that new engine.
 

Blitzo

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Why all of the sudden this explosion of J20 showing off? Is it to send some message to the other side? has this ever happen before?

It's been a couple of years since it has entered service now.

Receiving a bit of media coverage now is normal. Other past weapons systems in the last few years have seen some similar coverage, where we get a bit of footage of it but nothing that technically informative is really revealed.


It simply isn't as sensitive as it once was a few years ago
 
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