J-20 5th Generation Fighter VII


stannislas

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One thing I always thought since the normal PLAAF the A2A configuration is only 4 missiles, 2xBVRAAM and 2xSRVVM, even 6 missiles config (4xBVRAAM and 2xSRVVM) are relatively rare. So in Zhuhai Airshow, J-20 with 4xPL-15 may not be its maximum load config, it may just be its conventional A2A config. Even F-22 rarely carry 6 AMRAAMs in A2A mission convention, but again NATO or the US normally did a much better job in PR and advertising than the Chinese...
 

Temstar

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One thing I always thought since the normal PLAAF the A2A configuration is only 4 missiles, 2xBVRAAM and 2xSRVVM, even 6 missiles config (4xBVRAAM and 2xSRVVM) are relatively rare. So in Zhuhai Airshow, J-20 with 4xPL-15 may not be its maximum load config, it may just be its conventional A2A config. Even F-22 rarely carry 6 AMRAAMs in A2A mission convention, but again NATO or the US normally did a much better job in PR and advertising than the Chinese...
Isn't the six missile config what J-20 are actually flying with? 4 X PL-15 in the main bay and 2 x PL-10 in the small side bays?
 

lcloo

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J20 is has external pylon fittings, so if they develop stealth pod housing for BVR missiles for external pylons, that would be another 2 to 4 extended range BVR missiles (PL-20 or PL-21 - 300 to 400km range?) that can be launched at 200km range or beyond.

We have seen photo of J20 with external fuel tanks attached. So there is no question of external pylon fittings on J20.

The stealth pylon housing can be dropped after missiles are launched. Restoring J20's original stealth 100 to 200km from enemy.
 
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latenlazy

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J20 is has external pylon fittings, so if they develop stealth pod housing for BVR missiles for external pylons, that would be another 2 to 4 BVR missiles (PL-20 or PL-21) that can be launched at 200km range or beyond.

We have seen photo of J20 with external fuel tanks attached. So there is no question of external pylon fittings on J20.

The stealth pylon housing can be dropped after missiles are launched. Restoring J20's original stealth 100 to 200km from enemy.
Or...everyone can just wait for the new missiles.
 

stannislas

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Isn't the six missile config what J-20 are actually flying with? 4 X PL-15 in the main bay and 2 x PL-10 in the small side bays?
no, what I mean is that there is plenty of space for the main weapon with only 4xpl-15, so the maximum load config could be 6xpl-15 in the main weapon bay. J-20 may have this ability, but PLAAF decides only show us the regular a2a mission 4xpl-15 config
 

benny

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I've done some editing. Thought I'd share what J-20 could look like in different forms
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J-20 without canards

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J-20 w/o canards and shortened fuselage

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J-20 w/o vertical stab, canards and shortened. It looks like one of the 6th generation fighter concept envisioned a decade ago.
 

Richard Santos

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You forgot to get rid of the ventral stabilizers. Those would likely be the very first to go.

also an Agile aircraft without Canards, tails or vertical stabilizers would likely need thrust vectoring.
 

ougoah

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And use what control surfaces? TVC can't be a complete substitute or alternative to control surfaces. I've understood it can at most minimise the need for canard deflections only for certain turns at particular speeds?
 

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