J-20 5th Gen Fighter Thread VI


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Deino

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Yes, the J-6 drone's cockpit may be PSed away. If the rest is real, however, the wingtip pods can be useful, especially for EW with J-20.
I don't think so, AFAIK it is a psed image of the Ba-6 testbed to test the JH-7's flight control system.
 

Brumby

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Yes, the J-6 drone's cockpit may be PSed away. If the rest is real, however, the wingtip pods can be useful, especially for EW with J-20.
Putting wingtip pods unto the J-20 will be beyond silly. Whatever antennas needed (including for EW) for the J-20 will be embedded and not externally mounted.

I am puzzled by the inference that wingtip ECM pods are somehow technologically more significant. In ECM, the efficacy of the technology is in the electronics and is not something you can discern by visual means.
 

xyqq

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Putting wingtip pods unto the J-20 will be beyond silly. Whatever antennas needed (including for EW) for the J-20 will be embedded and not externally mounted.

I am puzzled by the inference that wingtip ECM pods are somehow technologically more significant. In ECM, the efficacy of the technology is in the electronics and is not something you can discern by visual means.
In the original post, the wingtip pods are referred to those of the J-6 in the second picture.

EW pods could be useful for J-6 drones flying together with J-20.
 

by78

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A funny interview from a magazine column titled "Interviews with Experts" or something like that. I'm not sure which magazine this is or who was the expert except the individual participated in the J-20 program. My summary is below:

Q: How are J-20's performance characteristics? How do they compare with those of F-22 and other 4th-generation peers?

A: J-20 is unique among 4th-gen fighters in that it adopts canards. Why? Because canards enable superior lift, maneuverability, take-off and landing characteristics, and they make super-cruise easier to achieve. I've also expressed publicly numerous times that J-20's maximum
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is the highest among all fighters.

So why is J-20's max lift coefficient the highest? Because we aimed really high, and there was a reason for aiming high. When F-22 was under development, the Americans were boasting that F-22's max lift coefficient was 2.0, an extraordinarily high number. For example, Su-27's lift coefficient was 1.6, which was among the very best.

F-22 has a fairly conventional layout – trapezoidal wings, no canards or LERX or other lifting devices. I just couldn't figure out how the Americans could have achieved such a high lift coefficient. As it turns out, after F-22's performance parameters became known, its actual lift coefficient was only 1.5. BUT we did not know that when we first started designing the J-20, so we aimed really high..."
 
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plawolf

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That's strange since it shows now the third helmet in use with the J-20. I always thought the PLAAF would only use the new lightweight design and the one with the HMD ...
Could it be down to pilot choice?

J20 pilots would be the vets of the best, and that may come with special privileges not afforded to regular frontline pilots, one of which might be a choice of helmet.

Considering J20 pilots would be pulled from all over the PLA, it could be that some of them prefer the helmets they were using before transitioning onto the J20.
 

kriss

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This one almost looks like it's a mount base for additional stuff with two big hole like that.
 
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