J-15 carrier fighter thread

Gloire_bb

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plawolf said:
And how often do the Russians do carrier landings with R27Es?
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I am not sure if they ever landed with anything else, haha.
All armed Russian naval flankers were seen with these missiles(and r-73s) only. Migs (Russian or indian) bring something else to the deck, but not su-33s.

One reason may be that carrier weapon storage facilities weren't updated for PL-15 yet. Hard to tell the exact reason as an outsider, but I'm almost certain it can't be PL-15 dimensions.
 
plawolf

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Tomboy said:
I assume quite often because Su-33's only BVR weapons are R27s. It's unlikely that PL-15s can't be used on carriers IMO, it's just probably because Liaoning and Shandong are still using a mix of J-15s and J-15Ts of which the former cannot use PL-15s so to simply logistics they just loaded PL-12s on the carrier.
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I never said PL15s can’t be used on carriers. But if each missile can only without a modest number of carrier landings, it would make sense you don’t want to be carrying them regularly and eating up those landings needlessly for no real benefit.
 
Neurosmith

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sunnymaxi said:
this doesn't make sense. i mean how costly PL-15s are ?? automation assembly line with full mass production. absolutely dreadful decision if true..
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Missiles have a shelf life, so perhaps this is just the PLAN waiting for the J-15T and J-35 to enter service en masse before they commit to PL-15s.

Makes no sense not to equip your forces with the PL-15 which will more or less represent the bread and butter of China's AA capability.
 
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sunnymaxi said:
this doesn't make sense. i mean how costly PL-15s are ?? automation assembly line with full mass production. absolutely dreadful decision if true..
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well, cute orca did say PL-12 improved version is better than PL-15E. So it is very much possible that latest PL-12 has all the electronics upgrade in PL-15 series, just not the dual-stage capability.
And Maybe they are going to put a big order for whatever J-35 will end up using.

Also of note, cute orca said that the radar on J-15T is the best of any 4.5 gen aircraft. So, that makes sense because it came along after J-16. Anyhow, J-15T itself should be a very competitive aircraft when networked together with other assets.
 
Neurosmith

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tphuang said:
well, cute orca did say PL-12 improved version is better than PL-15E. So it is very much possible that latest PL-12 has all the electronics upgrade in PL-15 series, just not the dual-stage capability.
And Maybe they are going to put a big order for whatever J-35 will end up using.

Also of note, cute orca said that the radar on J-15T is the best of any 4.5 gen aircraft. So, that makes sense because it came along after J-16. Anyhow, J-15T itself should be a very competitive aircraft when networked together with other assets.
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Well the radar is only as capable as the missile is in the grand scheme of things, plus the PL-15E is not particularly a competitive piece of equipment in light of the AIM-260, Meteor, and even the Astra Mk. 3.

If the PLAN really did not purchase or does not plan or purchasing PL-15s, the most likely explanation is that it's waiting for something new, either a particular launch platform or a new missile altogether (PL-16 for example).
 
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PLAN will certainly buy some type of aam more advanced than pl-12 for their j-35s. I don’t think pl-12s are optimized for internal carriage. Aren’t they already testing j-35, which must be carrying something internally imo.
 
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