J-15 carrier-borne fighter thread

kwaigonegin

kwaigonegin

Colonel
Richard Santos said:
Is there something wrong with so many unprotected personnel being so close to an armed and fueled aircraft that's on fire?
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It's difficult to say since a photograph only captures a single instance in time however generally speaking you NEVER ever stand so close to plane on fire especially one with ordnance.
Considering the driver is not even there anymore, there is even less reason to be so close. You douse the fire and put it out first b4 you even come anywhere close to it.
Again not knowing the events directly b4 or after the pictures were taken but at face value, I see a severe lack of common sense and/or training in those responders.
 
Hendrik_2000

Hendrik_2000

Lieutenant General
Every J-15 costs in the 50 million euro, at today's exchange rate. according to Henri K Wow expensive bird

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Jeff Head

Jeff Head

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manqiangrexue

manqiangrexue

Brigadier
Jeff Head said:
GREAT job by that pilot.

Flying high performance military aircraft is inherently dangerous...whether in combat or not.

@Air Force Brat @FORBIN @bd popeye @Jura @Obi Wan Russell @Miragedriver ...all of you guys will like what this pilot was able to accomplish.
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I don't know if this was fully appreciated but the situation at the time was that the left engine is out and when that happens, the jet should make left turns powered by the right engine to return to base. However, to the left was a residential area and the pilot obviously did not want to cause any civilian casualties in case he needed to eject. He wanted to turn right but his wingman indicated to him that judging by the smoke coming out of his left engine, he couldn't make the turn sharp enough and would end up unable to align with the runway. So the pilot decided to make the left turn following protocol with his hand on hair-trigger alert to use the last breath of his jet to jolt it away from the buildings should he feel any indication that he was going to lose control. (I don't know if he would have the time/opportunity to eject if he suddenly pulled his aircraft at low speed, low altitude into an uncontrollable roll.) The result was obviously what we saw.

To me, it felt like his priorities were 1. don't kill any civilians, 2. save the jet, 3. come back alive, in that order.
 
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Jeff Head

Jeff Head

General
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manqiangrexue said:
I don't know if this was fully appreciated but the situation at the time was that the left engine is out and when that happens, the jet should make left turns powered by the right engine to return to base. However, to the left was a residential area and the pilot obviously did not want to cause any civilian casualties in case he needed to eject. He wanted to turn right but his wingman indicated to him that judging by the smoke coming out of his left engine, he couldn't make the turn sharp enough and would end up unable to align with the runway. So the pilot decided to make the left turn following protocol with his hand on hair-trigger alert to use the last breath of his jet to jolt it away from the buildings should he feel any indication that he was going to lose control. (I don't know if he planned to have the time to eject in that case.) The result was obviously what we saw.

To me, it felt like his priorities were 1. don't kill any civilians, 2. save the jet, 3. come back alive, in that order.
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That order is pretty much what any well trained and dedicated pilot is going to do...no matter where they are trained.

if they have those qualities...good training and dedication, that is the order of priority.
 
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