Weren't there rumors/reportings of Indonesia allegedly planning to procure second-hand J-10Bs sometime ago as well?
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Weren't there rumors/reportings of Indonesia allegedly planning to procure second-hand J-10Bs sometime ago as well?
I must admit, I don't know this guy, so anyone with an insight, on who he is or how credible he is, would be very welcome!
By the way, what's this? A grey & yellow J-20?
York (约克) is a veteran China based PLA watcher based in Xian — but IIRC, he's originally from and/or was previously employed in Wuhan — who works within the Chinese aviation industry.
You can find .
I would say York (约克) is reasonably informed, even if he is on occasion a bit "too nationalistic" with some of his takes. The guy has been working within the Chinese aviation industry for years, so he's inevitably privy to gossip and chatter that the majority of PLA watchers lack access to.
Realistically speaking that's basically everyone in the Chinese community, great takes and usually credible on anything PLA related but more dubious and nearly always biased when it comes to anything Western and sometimes even Russian stuff. Which isn't to say anything bad as American fans and probably military fans/watcher worldwide do the exact same with their respective countries.
An older photo of an airframe testing composites? I can see the faint outline of a yellow line in the ventral fins, and the engine's "silver collar" is long so likely WS-10C (so unlikely to be a J-20A airframe). We know the latest J-20A models have fully composite (=grey when rest of plane is in yellow primer) ventral fins.
Alright, I was contemplating sharing this but had hesitation. According to 约克, orders for the J-10CE is now in the triple digits
Some other things he said
1. The original plan was to have GAC manufacture the plane, but the pace of the upgrade process at GAC has not kept up, so production is still being done at CAC.
2. The J-10CE can be manufactured on a shared production line with the J-20
[perhaps partially, obviously]
2.5 In fact, the J-10CE's manufacturing standards were set to align with the J20's. The J-10CE's production quality is extremely high -- everyone saw it at last year's Zhuhai Airshow. The workmanship of that plane was just gorgeous.
[possibly related to #1]
3. The J-10CE has paid additional attention to compatibility and integration with other weapon systems
However, I think we should go over the credibility of the individual again. I had briefly talked about it here:
I think he certainly does have info, but we should be cautious when evaluating what he says. We don’t know how many hands the info has passed through, or the specific context under which those statements were made from his sources .
Moreover, recently he's made a lot more of the specific remarks that we look for:
- China’s aircraft carriers have already been planned up to the sixth ship
- GJ-11 exported to the UAE
- The “Water Molecule” designation is gone now
- J-16 is no longer in production, only J-16Ds
- He was also the one who claimed that the yearly production of Y-20 is now ~50 (I vaguely remember him saying something like this, but I can't find the exact quote)
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Wait so this production is just for export none for the PLAAF?
Also would this cut into the J-20 production rates?
Cer
Certainly current J10C production only for export. According to source, CAC found it is room for the J10C production ( without affecting J20 producing rate), since J10C can share partial production facilities used for J20 currently in trunk production.