J-10 Thread IV

[aahyan]

Enlarged Dosal Spine (EDS)

 

[tphuang]

Sorry if I missed this, but do we know 1) what the current production rate of J-10Cs might approximately look like and 2) if they're upgrading J-10As?

I'm not sure they are still producing J-10Cs for PLAAF. As for J-10As, haven't seen any programs for it. Looks like they decided to upgrade all the J-11Bs. J-10As may be too short legged.

Latest article from Second to None magazine leaks more interesting details on the J-10C.

Some key takeaways:
1) The radar/avionics are very sophisticated and there is a high level of automated decision making that significantly reduces pilot workload, hence the "supersonic computer on wings" moniker.
2) The J-10CP is an omnirole aircraft equally capable in air to air and air to surface roles.
3) Engine is very good.
4) Has very low rcs for a fourth gen aircraft. Almost stealthy under some conditions. (reiterated, as with engine).
5) Maneuverability is excellent.
6) Sophisticated tech makes maintenance very easy.

Thanks, not the first time I've heard about J-10C being very hard to track. It definitely sounds like PAF is impressed by its stealthiness since they mentioned that many times. I'd guess it's probably on similar level to Rafale and better in certain situations.

 

[Rafi]

I'm not sure they are still producing J-10Cs for PLAAF. As for J-10As, haven't seen any programs for it. Looks like they decided to upgrade all the J-11Bs. J-10As may be too short legged.


Thanks, not the first time I've heard about J-10C being very hard to track. It definitely sounds like PAF is impressed by its stealthiness since they mentioned that many times. I'd guess it's probably on similar level to Rafale and better in certain situations.

DSI makes a huge difference to radar signature.

 

[siegecrossbow]

DSI makes a huge difference to radar signature.

I don't think that's the only reason. JF-17 also uses DSI inlets but PAF never mentioned that it is a "ghost". I think use of composite material, RAM, and controlled deflection of control surfaces probably contributed to the low rcs on J-10C as well.

 

[Deino]

Enlarged Dosal Spine (EDS)

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Yes, J-10CY for the Ba Yi aerobatics team

 

[tphuang]

I don't think that's the only reason. JF-17 also uses DSI inlets but PAF never mentioned that it is a "ghost". I think use of composite material, RAM, and controlled deflection of control surfaces probably contributed to the low rcs on J-10C as well.

From what patch mentioned to me, emission control on j10 is quite good. Also if you look at the build quality of j10c, only j20 is better amongst plaaf aircraft.

 

[Rafi]

I don't think that's the only reason. JF-17 also uses DSI inlets but PAF never mentioned that it is a "ghost". I think use of composite material, RAM, and controlled deflection of control surfaces probably contributed to the low rcs on J-10C as well.

Jf17 has a very small radar signature in itself because it is a small fighter, but the J10C is much larger and has a significantly lower radar cross reference than the F16, which surprised the PAF pleasantly.

 

[by78]

A Pakistani J-10CE on afterburners.

 

[A.Man]

WMR，J-10C with WS-10 engine, no marks what so ever.

 

[guanyu158]

Latest article from Second to None magazine leaks more interesting details on the J-10C.

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Some key takeaways:
1) The radar/avionics are very sophisticated and there is a high level of automated decision making that significantly reduces pilot workload, hence the "supersonic computer on wings" moniker.
2) The J-10CP is an omnirole aircraft equally capable in air to air and air to surface roles.
3) Engine is very good.
4) Has very low rcs for a fourth gen aircraft. Almost stealthy under some conditions. (reiterated, as with engine).
5) Maneuverability is excellent.
6) Sophisticated tech makes maintenance very easy.

Engine thrust is only over 29000 lbs.