J-10 Thread IV

[Franklin]

gooosh, already 76 J-10B!, already more powerful than most air force in the world (outside top 20).

Is it normal the number of aircraft per batch is 53 ? .. a bit too high to me

There are 75 planes one J-10B crashed during testing. That means two squadrons of 26 block I planes. Perhabs each squadron has 24 planes and the other 2 in the squadron are reserves ? Or is 26 a normal size for a PLAAF squadron ?

But they are sure pumping out these planes fast. Do CAC and SAC make big profits like Lockheed and Boeing or are they as SOE don't make any if not very small profits as companies.

 

[delft]

Yes indeed that's surprising... I think the J-10As had a batch of 42 aircraft.

How large is the batch size for other fighters produced that way in China and other countries? At what production rate is it more efficient to go for series production? When using series production you might still have a jump in the numbers when some significant improvement less than would justify going to a next version letter is realized but then it would look as if the batch size varies.

 

[asif iqbal]

Man China on the ground on the sea and in the air they are progressing so fast

When I was at school 15 years ago my geography teacher used to say China will be a superpower, now they can say they ARE a superpower

001A, Type 052D and J10B is huge numbers

J10B/C production is amazing !! Well done China

Let's see more of the same

Btw 1-53 is "assumed" to be last unit of block I imagine we see 1-63 like next week lol

 

[tphuang]

it's really not that amazing for an aircraft that had its maiden flight 7 years ago and serial production starting over 2 years ago. Then again, J-20 project certainly took some resources away from J-10 series.

 

[taxiya]

But they are sure pumping out these planes fast. Do CAC and SAC make big profits like Lockheed and Boeing or are they as SOE don't make any if not very small profits as companies.

They are nearly 100% owned by the state, I say nearly is only because there may have been some of their shares in the open market making them not 100%, however I am not sure about that.

So, I don't think CAC and SAC can make profit from their owner's wallet. It is more likely that they are allowed to keep some cash that they can do things without direct state approval, just like children get some money from parents in their piggy bank.

 

[SinoSoldier]

it's really not that amazing for an aircraft that had its maiden flight 7 years ago and serial production starting over 2 years ago. Then again, J-20 project certainly took some resources away from J-10 series.

"Amazing"? It's downright pathetic; it took merely two years for Sukhoi/HAL to induct the Su-30MKI.

 

[SinoSoldier]

J-10C's cockpit (Part I/II)
The J-10C is believed to incorporate scaled-down fifth-generation subsystems found on the likes of the J-20 and serves as a testbed for J-20 components, fulfilling the same performance and mission requirements as the likes of the Eurofighter and Rafale.

 

[SinoSoldier]

J-10C's cockpit (Part II/II)
The J-10C is believed to incorporate scaled-down fifth-generation subsystems found on the likes of the J-20 and serves as a testbed for J-20 components, fulfilling the same performance and mission requirements as the likes of the Eurofighter and Rafale.

 

[MastanKhan]

"Amazing"? It's downright pathetic; it took merely two years for Sukhoi/HAL to induct the Su-30MKI.

Hi,

Well---take into consideration the experience that russia has---almost a century---.

OTOH---this is the first major fighter aircraft by the chinese that can be measured very close to other similar aircraft of the western world---.

And then to integrate it into the system---7 years is no small achievement.

 

[Quickie]

"Amazing"? It's downright pathetic; it took merely two years for Sukhoi/HAL to induct the Su-30MKI.

Even if I agreed that the development of J10B seemed a bit slow paced, its development is more akin to development of the Su-27 into Su-30 in terms of amount of changes (although admittedly the inlet changes seemed less complicated than adding canards) , whereas the Su-30MKI is more a system customisation from a generic Su-30.

According to Wiki, the first flight of the Su-30 was on 31 December 1989 with its introduction in 1996, about 7 years. The J-10B took 5 years from first flight to introduction.