J-10 Thread IV

[by78]

Laser-guided bomb does not need any data exchange with the plane.

You said "dumb" weapons. Laser-guided bombs are not dumb weapons, and furthermore, they do need "data exchange" with the plane.

 

[ougoah]

Can the four smaller fuselage side pylons (which are often shown with small free fall bombs or pods) be used to carry A2A missiles? Anyone have photos of missiles being carried on these? I recall seeing renderings with them but never real photos. Always assumed they aren't capable of carrying A2A missiles which means the J-10 is limited to at most, 4 MRAAMs and 2 SRAAMs with three drop tanks. Incredible to think the flankers have such amazing range despite not using drop tanks.

 

[Deino]

Can the four smaller fuselage side pylons (which are often shown with small free fall bombs or pods) be used to carry A2A missiles? Anyone have photos of missiles being carried on these? I recall seeing renderings with them but never real photos. Always assumed they aren't capable of carrying A2A missiles which means the J-10 is limited to at most, 4 MRAAMs and 2 SRAAMs with three drop tanks. Incredible to think the flankers have such amazing range despite not using drop tanks.

No

 

[by78]

Just an interesting image from an overhead perspective.

 

[AlyxMS]

How to store J-10 in a space efficient manner
Image from Weibo:航空新视野-赤卫

 

[Daniel707]

Nice Artistic Image of J-10C


From 奇圆JeffHoly@Weibo

 

[Brumby]

Laser-guided bombs are not dumb weapons, and furthermore, they do need "data exchange" with the plane.

Laser-guided bombs use beam riding as guidance. In other words you designate a target with the laser pointer and off it goes following that beam. There is no data exchange involved. The downside is you need good weather to deploy and the laser needs to stay on point until impact.

 

[Tam]

China import around 1000 AL31 engine. There are roughly 175- 200 J11, J11A So 400 engines are used, counting spare parts and attrition you add 100 more engine are used. That left 500 engines There are roughly 350-400 J10, J10B, J10C up to third tranche Add to that 50-100 spares and attrition All the imported Al31 has been used up and we don't have any new order for Al31. Actually, the total J10, J10B, J10c are around 400-500.

So, they have to use Taihang from now on

Its been planned so from the start. The AL-31FN is only a transitional engine and even Saturn knows it. The quantities of the engines are planned to last only as long until the Taihang is finally made available for the J-10s.

There might still be future imports for spares on older planes however, and that can still keep Saturn's business for a while.

 

[by78]

Laser-guided bombs use beam riding as guidance. In other words you designate a target with the laser pointer and off it goes following that beam. There is no data exchange involved. The downside is you need good weather to deploy and the laser needs to stay on point until impact.

That's not what I meant. The person I was replying to was very specific about the inboard wing hardpoints not being wired for data at all and only suitable for "dumb" bombs. I was merely pointing out that laser bombs aren't dumb free-fall bombs, and furthermore, there has to be some data exchanged prior to release, such as the armed state of the laser bombs and maybe whether they have achieved a lock on the beam, and so on. A very rudimentary data exchange, yes, but data exchange nonetheless.

 

[Blitzo]

That's not what I meant. The person I was replying to was very specific about the inboard wing hardpoints not being wired for data at all and only suitable for "dumb" bombs. I was merely pointing out that laser bombs aren't dumb free-fall bombs, and furthermore, there has to be some data exchanged prior to release, such as the armed state of the laser bombs and maybe whether they have achieved a lock on the beam, and so on. A very rudimentary data exchange, yes, but data exchange nonetheless.

Yeah, the term "dumb bomb" means something specific in military parlance, i.e. bombs which are not guided, and LGB -- most certainly are guided per their name, laser guided bomb.