J-10 carrier version revealed

bd popeye

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I've always liked this version of a navalized J-10. I've had this picture for several years now.
 

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maozedong

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yes, your pic is better, because it is folding wing, more taste carrier version.
I think if J-10 to be navalized, it should be folding wings.
the first pic is large delta wing with folding, little strange, Raffale-f2 is not folding wing.
 
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BLUEJACKET

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I'm sure if that particular programme- with 2 engines and double fin tail- existed beyond drawings stage, by now we would have more than just pictures to look at! IMO the chinese themselves don't know for sure which way to proceed- the Su-33 deal don't indicate much.
 

bd popeye

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Here's some more looks at that naval version of a J-10. Once again I've had these pictures at least two years...I got them from a link in the old ezboard forum. And they've been previously posted somewhere in this forum.

Enjoy!:)
 

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Chengdu J-10

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Probably not in the meantime or even in the near future. The photo recon role is perfectly suited with the current J-8II fighters, whose forte is high speed, high altitude flight, and mods to that effect appear to be happening. Previously, the role was used with first generation J-8I fighters.




That should not be a problem since it looks like internal fuel capacity is carefully considered in the J-10 in the first place. The delta wings and its large long root could hold two very large fuel bladders. In addition the hump in the back appear like you can put fuel on that too.
Just a question as the J-8II has both high speed and altitude aspects it is suitable for the reconassiance aircraft as it can play some useful role in the PLAAF besides an interceptor. But (correct me if I'm wrong) isn't a reconssance aircraft mean't to have a long range too??? As the J-8II is really lagging in range. And since the China is emerging to become a regional power its J-8II can only go as far as China's territoral waters in respect to its range...As the J-8II can like recon nations close to China's borders..what aircraft would China use in the near future for long range reconassiance...Su-30???Since it has a decent range???Suggestions
 

crobato

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The J-8II is capable of mid air refueling in addition to carrying tanks. So at least it can cover parts of the China seas and Taiwan.

You don't really need photographic reconnaissance this time and age, due to having satellites and Google Earth. What is more important is electronic surveillance. Y-8s are generally best for electronic surveillance, but the PLAAF also uses modified Tu-154 civil airliners for this purpose.
 

Pointblank

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The J-8II is capable of mid air refueling in addition to carrying tanks. So at least it can cover parts of the China seas and Taiwan.

You don't really need photographic reconnaissance this time and age, due to having satellites and Google Earth. What is more important is electronic surveillance. Y-8s are generally best for electronic surveillance, but the PLAAF also uses modified Tu-154 civil airliners for this purpose.

I would not say, satellites is the end all and be all with photographic intelligence. For example, if you need timely information and your satellite is out of position, it can take hours until it is in position. Furthermore, aerial reconnaissance can provide details that a satellite can miss, and take pictures from multiple angles. It is just that the information from surveillance aircraft is more and more being supplemented by satellite recon, and information from UAV's.
 

Skorzeny

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The J-8II is capable of mid air refueling in addition to carrying tanks. So at least it can cover parts of the China seas and Taiwan.

You don't really need photographic reconnaissance this time and age, due to having satellites and Google Earth. What is more important is electronic surveillance. Y-8s are generally best for electronic surveillance, but the PLAAF also uses modified Tu-154 civil airliners for this purpose.

Google earth was meant as a joke right :roll:
I can see google earth being valuble for al qaida, if they run out of cash and cant afford a bussfare to get a bloke over and get eyes on, but for china?
You need recon aircraft to time critical information and different angles as pointblank said. They are also better for tactical use.
(I know my post didn`t bring anything knew, but just had to comment on google)
 

crobato

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If you want real time information, a stealthy UAV can do the job for much lower the cost and risk. The kind of jobs high and fast flying jets like the SR-71 does, are exactly the kind of jobs satellites can do. Fast jets cannot loiter and provide real time information. Their work is more photographic.

For real time surface ISR, the PLA is better served with Y-8s carrying phase arrays with side scanning and SAR capabilities.
 

BLUEJACKET

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what aircraft would China use in the near future for long range reconassiance...Su-30???Since it has a decent range???Suggestions
Here is one suggestion-
H-5 [Il-28 BEAGLE (ILYUSHIN)]
The PLA Air Force is equipped itself with several dozen of special-purpose electronic aircraft, including a few specially modified Hongdian-5 light bombers which have been equiped to support electronic warfare operations. ..
The Il 28 was the Soviet Union's standard light bomber, and was in use in all air forces of the Soviet Bloc. These aircraft were produced in China under the nomenclature H-5. Although portion of China's jet light bomber force could be used in a limited strategic role, the H-5's low performance envelope mitigates against its use for strategic bombing.

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Country of Origin. CIS (formerly USSR).
Similar Aircraft. Canberra, Yak-28 Brewer.
Crew. Three.
Role. Light bomber, trainer.
Armament. Bombs, two 23-mm cannons in tail.
Dimensions. Length: 57 ft, 11 in (17.6 m). Span: 70 ft, 5 in (21.5 m).
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The reports of the demise of the H-5 seem somewhat exaggerated. It was asserted without citation in 1995 that the H-5 had been withdrawn from service, but the continued presence of the H-5 in the PLAAF inventory is widely attested by subsequent sources.

The SH-5 Aircraft

In 1968, Design Institute 605 and the Harbin Aircraft Factory developed a water-borne variant of the H-5, or the SH-5. Powered by 4 Harbin WJSA engines, the all-weather, sub-sonic aircraft specialized in anti-submarine and anti-ship warfare. The SH-5 possesses a Doppler radar, automatic navigator, omnidirectional warning device, identification friend or foe (IFF), sonobuoys, magnetic anomaly detectors and a remote-controlled electrically operated gun. With a maximum take-off weight of 45 tons, it can carry up to 6 tons of bombs, torpedoes, depth charges and anti-ship missiles. The SH-5 is also capable of maritime reconnaissance, patrol, rescue, and transportation.
The WJSA engine is a more powerful variant of the WJS engine designed specifically for a maritime aircraft. From April 1969 to September 1970, Design Institute 605 was responsible for the design of the SH-5. Harbin Aircraft Factory began trial production during the same time, with the first test aircraft produced in August 1971.
The SH-5 aircraft successfully conducted a waterborne takeoff and landing on April 3, 1976 at the Zhanghe reservoir in Jinmen. Harbin Aircraft Factory continued to produce more test planes. Testing for the SH-5 was completed in September 1984 after 291 flights and 108 hours of flight testing. The SH-5 was delivered to the PLAN in December 1984.
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It would be interesting to find out if those SH-5 are still in service, and their total number!
 
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