Italian Horizon class anti-air warfare (AAW) frigate "Andrea Doria"

soem facts on the ka-28's radar:


Says the radar can detect objects up to 30km away. not to much, but good enough to give a boost to any ships radar. However, i dont think its feasible to fly a helicopter within 30km of an enemy fleet.

Best i could find on OTH radars





anyhow, you may have to put 2 and 2 together rather than just getting your answer from a single source. Isnt that what military analyists do?

Totoro said:

If you read what i've written in this thread you'd see that i said one on one conflict of these ships is not probable. With airborne radar guidance of course the full range can be used, and it's pretty evident one would try to provide that guidance, it'd be the sensible and probable thing to do.

Do you claim that the ka-28 on the 52c have a radar with good enough range to guide the missiles? I know russians have offered a version but i didn't think chinese took up on that. If there are AEW ka-28s, how many are there, on which ships do they operate? I'm really interested to know, i'm not gonna dispute it with you, i'd be glad if chinese operated such systems.

As for the over the horizon 450 km range stat of the disputed radar system... excuse me but i still haven't read anything that'd make me change my mind. Like i said, any radar has a certain over the horizon capability, but it's rather small. I hoped for a more technical piece of info, just how does the said radar achieve its considerate over the horizon capability, and just what exactly that oth range is.

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I'm saying ka-28 on 052C has a surface search radar and I don't know what the range on it is.

I'm also saying that the 450 KM range of mineral-me is mentionned by a fairly reliable source when it comes to Chinese news. Now, how this 450 KM range is measured is another story. Do I know how the russians did it? How do you think the Russians make use of the shipwreck missile? Maybe that's a good place to start.

Also, sinodefence said:
"Four 4-cell launcher for the YJ-83 (C-803) sea-skimming, radar-homing anti-ship cruise missile system are installed behind the funnel. The YJ-83 is said to have a final approach speed of Mach 1.5 and a maximum range of 150km. It is noted that the YJ-83 onboard the Type 052B relies on a Russian-made Band Stand fire-control radar to provide target information, which would enable the YJ-83 to reach its maximum range of fire without relaying target information by the shipborne helicopter."
meaning, YJ-83 according to it has a range of 150 KM and band stand allows it to make full use of that range. Notice how the range of Band stand is not the limiting factor, but the range of YJ-83 missile is.

MIGleader said:

The ships looks as if has slightly inferior air defnece than the 52c, as the aster 30 only has a range of 100km as opposed to the hq-9's 120km.

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The Aster 30 has published range of 3 to 120km, but I think we shouldn't get too hung up on the specs. Like USN's standard missile, we can expect the Europeans to improve their missile's range and capability over time.

If the French Navy successfully modify/deploy SCALP EG cruise missiles from the SYLVER VLS launcher system, it'd be a nice versitle system.

Geez, the ROCN La Fayette could sure use a 16-cel Aster missile upgrade. =P