I think we should not assume there are 0 corrupt PAP or PLA members.
But I do think we can challenge any idea of corruption being as bad or worse than say Russian or US military.
Infantry Combat Equipment (non-firearm): Vests, Body Armor, NVGs, etc.
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But I do think we can challenge any idea of corruption being as bad or worse than say Russian or US military.
I totally believe there are corruption in PLA ranks, however, the point is how the corruption behaves in a specific armed force? Different armed forces have different form of corruption.
For example, there are numerous news about US Army personnel stealing equipment including guns and selling it to civilians; this is the form of corruption in US military. However, because of China's society as a whole have a very strict attitude toward guns, this would be hardly seen in PLA. But we could often hear about corruption happens in food procurement process.
About infantry equipment, it is no strange that some uniform/vests/body armor been leaked in the long process of procurement, considering China's role in global manufacturing industry, however most of self-claimed 'authentic equipment' are actually fake and made by some private firms in 江浙沪. If you search it on Taobao there will be a million shops selling these, and none of them are authentic. Some of them are straight low quality, but quite a few are so real that only an expert in PLA equipment can tell, let alone some foreign expert.
To add on to this if it's qbz-03 and qbz95 in Myanmar, then I would not be surprised at all. I don't even think this is neccesarily PLA corruption, such a small arm used in large numbers in what is essentially a warlord state can already be accessed by civilians and I presume with the proper connections there is potential to be smuggled as afterall this is business; they sell drugs and arms over there like a cartel lol this is literally their job. It's just that due to language barrier and lack of actual interest that we haven't seen westerners get ahold of such things for personal use in the same sense as LARPing as a Russian grunt as I think it should be very obvious at this point the Wa State is propped up by chinese diaspora, the chinese government, shady dealings, human trafficking, drugs, and idealistic chinese wanting to join. Just by looking at chinese and local news you know they are given equipment by the boat loads from China (PLA arms) and smuggle their own arms too. Plus in the end even if you get access to such things it's not like the guns are some top secret weapon, it's just some mass manufactured rifle that shoots cheap ammunition that is similar in calibre to 5.45 and 5.56. Accessing qbz03 and qbz95 for a westerner is more for the novelty. This was never really some top secret and something like the qbz03 and qbz95 is already supplied by the boatloads alongside other PLA arms and kit like its nothing to the Wa state; It's a cheap rifle, not a j-20 jet.
Now the plates in particular are interesting, there is a good chance (but notice how I am not making an actual conclusion) this could be an earlier batch of the equipment as the plate carrier matches up. The performance surprised me (I was expecting something like the standard issued Russian armor), and what Oxide mentioned in this thread makes me lean torwards this being the real deal from an earlier batch however what would make this more conclusive is getting to trace where this is sourced from which we are not being told currently. The missing labels can both be in favor of this being the real deal and also go against it so I think to actually conclude something we need more information leaked whether it be from a soldier, the seller, etc.
The Chinese government officially sells weapons to both the Myanmar Army and UWSA because they're both allies of China.
Let’s stay on topic y’all. This is an infantry equipment thread, not UWSA and China’s arms deals.
Here are some unconfirmed information:1224 individual soldier combat system(type19) will be simplified.
The reason is that the informatization level exceeds the current processing capacity of the battalion,commanders are unable to handle the SMS, video and pictures uploaded by each soldier.
Note that this news was released four months ago and is controversial.This may be an outdated information. After all, we must take into account the rapid progress of PLA
The description of the relationship between type19 and type21 is still very confusing.
Show another interesting picture here：
I had similar thoughts about information overdrive when I saw this and had the same thoughts again when I looked into the new US Army NGSW scopes that plan to field. That scope is even more info-packed than this. I think it might be wise to slowly add more after some training, maybe through iterations instead of all at once. Though then again I know nothing about military training or command, I just used to babysit kids.
I'd say you can't compare the NGSW scope with the Chinese NVG. That scope is more or less a LVPO with aim assist and serves a different role than the one the Chinese multi-functional NVG serves. A comprison between the US Army ENVG B and this NVG is much more appropriate in my opinion. The Chinese NVG is basically a cut down monocular version of the ENVG B that lacks the cornershot mechanism and the various vision settings like thermal and the new fused outline sight.
As for the revelation by the user, I agree. New systems like this takes time to integrate into the overall structure of a unit, especially Chinese units since they literally have been using infantry gear equivalent to that of a late 1990's US Army soldier.
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TerraN_EmpirE
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I don’t think that’s a good comparison either as by your own admission it lacks those other vision modes. Those other vision modes like fused and thermal make the ENVG the Enhanced Night Vision. So what they seem to have is just a more compact night vision system.
otherwise I more or less agree here. The XM157 at this point is a primarily day sight. Though it’s streaming may/possibly/potentially allow it to somewhat corner shoot potentially with ENVG or IVAS at this point it seems like it would need to be partnered with a clip on night sight for dark ops.
I am comparing the two because both armies plan to field those NVG’s in the near future. Both sides will eventually equip many of their soldiers with this system, so such a comparison is more or less valid.
As for the XM157, yep, a soldier would need an additional attachment for the corner shot mechanism since the corner shot mechanism is a separate attachment. If I recall correctly, the scope is made by Vortex, so they definitely didn’t integrate L3Harris’s cornershot mechanism into the scope.
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