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escobar

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Both. There should be a search radar and a fire control radar. The fire control radar should be the one above and the below should be the search radar.
THAAD has only one radar, the X-band AN/TPY-2: detect & track
 

Tam

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THAAD has only one radar, the X-band AN/TPY-2: detect & track

TPY-2 is sometimes paired with other radars, including MPQ-53 or MPQ-64 for the Patriot, or other search radars. Bringing this up is irrelevant because the Chinese isn't copying this as an example.

The ones that you see with the HQ-19 set up happens to be a more conventional arrangement, derived from the HQ-9 set up, which is classic two step with search radars working with fire control radars.

The radar on the bottom has well separated elements, which means long wave, possibly UHF. This is good for very long range detect but not good for precise tracking, so you cannot use it to guide missile. You can see its clearly aimed upwards for space search, unlike air defense radars where they tend to look more at the horizon. So its obviously looking to detect objects high above the sky. You can presume the one with the solid face can either be a C or X-band radar. It has an IFF strip on the top and a communication strip at the bottom, which is meant to datalink with the missile. Those are lacking on the other radar.

It is also possible that the C or X-band radar can also operate alone so it can detect and track an enemy target, and guide a missile at the same time and that won't be unusual with fire control radars as they can go it alone in the situation when their search radars are attacked and killed by SEAD. But when you have a dedicated search radar, the detection range can be even greater, or it has a stronger ability to detect stealthier objects at range.
 
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escobar

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TPY-2 is sometimes paired with other radars, including MPQ-53 or MPQ-64 for the Patriot, or other search radars. Bringing this up is irrelevant because the Chinese isn't copying this as an example.

The ones that you see with the HQ-19 set up happens to be a more conventional arrangement, derived from the HQ-9 set up, which is classic two step with search radars working with fire control radars.

The radar on the bottom has well separated elements, which means long wave, possibly UHF. This is good for very long range detect but not good for precise tracking, so you cannot use it to guide missile. You can see its clearly aimed upwards for space search, unlike air defense radars where they tend to look more at the horizon. So its obviously looking to detect objects high above the sky. You can presume the one with the solid face can either be a C or X-band radar. It has an IFF strip on the top and a communication strip at the bottom, which is meant to datalink with the missile. Those are lacking on the other radar.

It is also possible that the C or X-band radar can also operate alone so it can detect and track an enemy target, and guide a missile at the same time and that won't be unusual with fire control radars as they can go it alone in the situation when their search radars are attacked and killed by SEAD. But when you have a dedicated search radar, the detection range can be even greater, or it has a stronger ability to detect stealthier objects at range.
Yes it is clear the last one is looking more at space than sky. Probably the first mobile ABM radar identified in China.
Another pic taken at west of Dunhuang, a ballistic missile target area.
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The C/X band radar
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escobar

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In its latest China Military Power Report, DoD give the designation CH-AB-X-02 to HQ-19. The ‘X’ in the system designation means that the missile is assessed to still be in development, and therefore not in operational service. That naming convention would also suggest the existence of another AB (anti-ballistic) missile defense interceptor: CH-AB-X-01.
Also from the report
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Digital AESA VHF band JY-27A radar - PLA version
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The appearance and characteristics of the JL-1A radar are not known.
 

ougoah

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It look like a israel green pine atbm radar.like the green pine radar chinese atbm radar are mobile.

Looks nothing like Green Pine. Even the array antenna designs look extremely different.

Israel's Green Pine radar is simply a mobile phased array early warning radar (something China had since 1970s) that is part of Israel's BMD network ie it performs some tracking and targeting role as well as early warning. This wouldn't be all that dissimilar to something like China's IAD search radars. There are Type 305As and Type 305Bs and Russian style ones, newer generations of 3D or 4D radars replacing those or complementing them, and the dedicated "counter stealth" UHF type search radars (these aren't themselves independently used to provide fire control targeting but there were hints from China from the 2010s that UHF anti stealth radars are used in network to provide enough accuracy and resolution to provide something that's effectively targeting against stealth from long ranges). China was the first and currently only one to network many units of integrated UHF radars to improve counter stealth resolution at ranges well above 100km. This was mentioned by those working on it back in 2012 iirc. It's been 10 years and at least two new generations of radars for China.

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