Hong-Kong Protests

Biscuits

Major
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I find that the Western lawyers and judges exist either as staunchly pro-establishment or basically planted by Western intelligence services.

The pro-establishment are law purists. The media keeps saying China "violated" the Sino-British agreement, bla, bla, bla, but as we have pointed out in this thread many times, it is a lie. HK LegCo never passed it's own National Security Law on its own, it is in the Basic Law for them to do so. Since they refused to fulfill this part of the constitution, the central government took its own initiative within the same constitution to enact the law as they saw fit. As such, legally speaking, the national security law was not some kind of "communist plot to seize HK", those judges/lawyers know this. Furthermore, the legal procedural framework is still the same, so people are still getting their "due process", evidentiary disclosure, etc. These are not show-trials or anything like that.

On the other side, we know for a fact that NED monies and other shady sources of "crowdfunding" have been created and essentially funnel money into these "human rights law firms" to defend the criminals. When they fail, they proceed to leave and/or claim that "this is not the same Hong Kong" or similar popular chorus. They do this because it actually weakens the rule of law that they claim to uphold. They know that legally speaking, there is nothing particularly untoward with the NSL, so they have to create an imaginary crisis of confidence and hope for continued intervention by the central government so they can try to spark unrest, or as the article mentions, economic harm. If they were legit lawyers only involved in legal affairs, you can continue to engage in the legal fight because it is still an open avenue to do so. What is the risk of jail really? You say its a fight, but you are afraid of the consequences? Plus this is HK jail, the most humane of prisons in all of Asia, basically the only place where the criminals aren't seen as animals.
All of the HK basic law with advantages and disadvantages were written by China, who also has the right to amend it at will. This is written in constitutional law regarding China's SAR territories.

Decades ago, China had made a joint communique with the UK, in order to normalize relations. Then, China said it wished for HK to have a high degree of autonomy for 50 years, which again, the definition of autonomy is completely decided by Chinese law.

This joint communique is no less ironclad than say the US-China ones about Taiwan Island. China does not owe UK any particular services because UK invaded more than a century ago and were made to surrender their illegal gains decades ago. Just like US is not legally entitled to help Beijing actively fight Taipei, the communique between Beijing and London doesn't legally force Beijing to help London enforce its own dystopian and regressive ideals on a vibrant Chinese city.

In fact, British interference in HK breaks the guidelines set down by Deng and Thatcher long ago. HK's autonomy is supposed to be both from communist and British absolutist monarchy influences. By sending in and funding armed "volunteers" including the fascist Ukrainian Azov, UK and US broke the 50 year peace and independence of Hong Kong and voided the joint communique themselves.
 

KYli

Brigadier
Double down on failed sanctions. It could actually beneficial for Hong Kong.
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US should expand Hong Kong sanctions to mid-tier officials, panel is told

  • Congressional-Executive Commission on China hears recommendations on how to increase pressure on Beijing over its crackdown on Hongkongers’ rights
  • Other suggested measures include speeding action on requests for political asylum and passing a bill to ban sales of arms to Hong Kong

 

NiuBiDaRen

Brigadier
Registered Member
Many UK-based roaches have said on HK forums that they're being questioned, as well as their kids at school, by local Brits and real refugees from Iraq, Syria and Ukr - Why the FUCK they you leave Hong Kong for this?

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Are these the same Hong Kongers who later want to get treated for mental illness?

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daifo

Captain
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Many UK-based roaches have said on HK forums that they're being questioned, as well as their kids at school, by local Brits and real refugees from Iraq, Syria and Ukr - Why the FUCK they you leave Hong Kong for this?

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Muh freedom!

"Finnick screens all residents of the Blackpool hotels as to their political allegiance. Guests are initially offered one month of accommodation, during which time he quizzes them about which protests they went to in Hong Kong, whether they have photos or videos to prove it, and what they think of the various opposition figures. (Finnick checks they are familiar with lower-profile campaigners, not just the ones everyone has heard of, like Joshua Wong or Jimmy Lai.)"

No Mental Health issues here:

"“I was very depressed these past two years,” she says. “I can’t do anything to improve the situation and have seen many people die, many people go to jail...It is very dark in Hong Kong right now.” Jessie quit her it job at a bank to move to Britain. “In Hong Kong we work like cows,” she says with a chuckle. “The uk is like a big holiday.”"


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KYli

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More fugitives attempt to flee from Hong Kong to Taiwan but was caught by the HKPF.
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Zeng Zhijian, a young man who was shot by a police officer during a demonstration in Tsuen Wan District on National Day in October 2019, was suspected of rioting and assaulting a police officer. He was absent from the hearing earlier. It is reported that he was arrested yesterday (13th) and will appear in court today. . According to reports, Zeng Zhijian and other four people planned to take a speedboat from Saigon Huangshi Pier to Taiwan in the early morning of yesterday, and were arrested by the police on the spot.


Police said that the New Territories South Regional Crime Squad arrested 4 men, aged between 16 and 23, in Sai Kung yesterday (13th). The District Court appears in court, and another person appears in the Eastern Magistrates' Courts today. According to reports, Zeng Zhijian and three other people planned to abscond from Saigon Huangshi Pier to Taiwan by speedboat yesterday, but were arrested by the police at the Pak Tam Chung Bus Terminal.


The incident happened on October 1, 2019. Zeng Zhijian, who was studying at Tsuen Wan Public Ho Chuan Yiu Memorial Secondary School at the time, was hit by live ammunition and recovered after treatment. He was later arrested by the police on charges of "assaulting a police officer" and "rioting". He was prosecuted, and until December 2020, he did not appear in court, and was issued an arrest warrant by the court. At that time, it was rumored that he had been in exile overseas. It is not ruled out that some people returned to Hong Kong after absconding overseas for economic or family reasons, or did not leave Hong Kong at all. Earlier, it was just deliberately distributing fake news that had been in exile.
 

daifo

Captain
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Respected by who? Certainly not the majority of 1.4 billion Chinese!

Wasn't that the lawyer guy that went to jail for a few months for attacking a hk plain clothes police? They should of done what the Russians would of done, given the guy 10 years.

From the protest videos, it seems no one respects or even cares about that crazy lady.
 
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