The comments are even better than the article. Sorry but even before Brexit there were only two first-rate powers, and Britain was not one of them, and we know who they are.
Hong-Kong Protests
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he wasnt french he was EgyptianI never heard that name. Why would there be a problem if diana was in love with french dude? Empire thing?
Too long to explain, read this article and make of it what you will.
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Interesting, but it still does not explain what happened to the man. Some say he was executed and others say hs living his life in anonymity
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Does it matter? Damage was done based on a 'massacre' that didn't happen (not going to argue with those who say it did, like I said make of the article what you will), and it still continues to cause damage three decades later. That's why the passing of the National Security Law was long needed, especially when Hong Kong has been such a hotbed for the CIA and the MI6 to sow disinformation of the CCP.
I'm a Beijinger and I was living inside the 2nd ring road during 1989. There was no massacre on Tiananmen Square.
Everyone in Beijing knew what happened. Civilians were killed or wounded by the military. But those killed or wounded were not university students protesting on the Tiananmen Square, they were Beijing residents trying to stop the military from reaching the square with barricades and Molotov cocktails, or just hit by stray bullets. Students were among the dead/wounded, but again they were local high school students. The tanks eventually reached the Square and protestors agreed to a peaceful withdrawal.
The student leaders ended up in the U.S. with academic/think tank/NGO appointments. Chinese citizens living legally or illegally in Australia and some other countries got their "blood passports". Passports soaked with the OUR blood. The Western media kept on repeating the Tiananmen Sqaure massacre lie. And never for once did the student leaders write to the newspaper editors and demand them to tell the truth that it was OUR blood what was spilled not theirs, all despite that we died FOR THEM.
There was a Internet forum for Beijing localists/nativists in the early 2000s. I forgot the name and it's probably shut down by now, but I remember the anger and resentment toward the protestors there. Of course, a localist forum was not a representative sample. I'm quite interested in knowing what the Tankman now thinks of the 1989 protestors.
In Hong Kong the protesting/rioting university students were mostly locals, so no local/outsider division unlike in Beijing where the overwhelming majority of the protestors were outsiders. But I feel sorry for those HK high school students who could end up with police records. Not that I see any moral equivalency between what us Beijingers did in 1989 and what they did. But I still feel sorry for them.
Everyone in Beijing knew what happened. Civilians were killed or wounded by the military. But those killed or wounded were not university students protesting on the Tiananmen Square, they were Beijing residents trying to stop the military from reaching the square with barricades and Molotov cocktails, or just hit by stray bullets. Students were among the dead/wounded, but again they were local high school students. The tanks eventually reached the Square and protestors agreed to a peaceful withdrawal.
The student leaders ended up in the U.S. with academic/think tank/NGO appointments. Chinese citizens living legally or illegally in Australia and some other countries got their "blood passports". Passports soaked with the OUR blood. The Western media kept on repeating the Tiananmen Sqaure massacre lie. And never for once did the student leaders write to the newspaper editors and demand them to tell the truth that it was OUR blood what was spilled not theirs, all despite that we died FOR THEM.
There was a Internet forum for Beijing localists/nativists in the early 2000s. I forgot the name and it's probably shut down by now, but I remember the anger and resentment toward the protestors there. Of course, a localist forum was not a representative sample. I'm quite interested in knowing what the Tankman now thinks of the 1989 protestors.
In Hong Kong the protesting/rioting university students were mostly locals, so no local/outsider division unlike in Beijing where the overwhelming majority of the protestors were outsiders. But I feel sorry for those HK high school students who could end up with police records. Not that I see any moral equivalency between what us Beijingers did in 1989 and what they did. But I still feel sorry for them.
Cor. You're brave. Reading comment from the rabid right wing express. I'm surprise you come back here with your mind intact. Lol
Not just that, after helping the British and French in WWI with the expectation that they would hand back Germany's colonial holdings in China, the british americans and french simply betrayed China and handed those lands and peoples to Japan.
What does that tell the Chinese people other than the only way to deal with the british and other western nations is to do so with a gun in your hand and the threat of violence over their hands aka the only way of doing diplomacy with barbarians. History has proven this tried and tested method of diplomacy when the british obediently abided by handing back Hong Kong in the 80s from none other than the Iron Lady herself, Margaret Thatcher.
Seems iron will bend against the Chinese Communist Party.