Hong-Kong Protests

Gatekeeper

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The net is tightening around Jimmy Lai. Now they are after his associate, 'ex' CIA operative, Mark Simon.

It is funny how an 'ex'-CIA operative is allowed to help run an important industry such as the media, and nothing is said by the West. Whereas Huawei's only link with Chinese government was the fact the owner is an ex soldier! (Which nearly all Chinese are)! And that's enough to be treated as a security threat. Hmmmm

Anyway here's dim sum daily:

Mark Simon, ex-CIA agent and personal aide of Jimmy Lai wanted by HK police

By Dimsumdaily Hong Kong


1:14PM Mon August 10, 2020


10th August 2020 – (Hong Kong) The National Security Department of the Police arrested Next Digital Media owner Jimmy Lai this morning (10th) for colluding with foreign forces and violating the “Hong Kong National Security Law.” And Jimmy Lai’s right-handed Mark Simon was wanted by the police.

Mark Simon said in a media interview on social networking site in June that he is now in Taiwan and only spends an average of 5 months in Hong Kong each year. He is wanted by Hong Kong police on suspicion of colluding with foreign forces.

Mark Simon has a close relationship with Jimmy Lai. The investigation found that at least 17 private limited companies connected with Jimmy Lai were registered with the address of Next Digital Building before March. Three of them are jointly owned by Mark Simon and Jimmy Lai while the other two are owned by Mark. Mark is accused of violating the terms of the land lease of Tseung Kwan O Industrial Estate. In addition, the Taiwanese media have criticised for speculating on land.

Taiwan-listed builder Chong Hong Construction Limited announced in July 2020 that it has spent NT$6,139 million (about HK$1.6 billion) to buy land in the Da-An area, Tucheng District, New Taipei City covering an area of about 31,400 square meters. The seller was CHARTWELL HOLDING LIMITED, BEST COMBO LIMITED and a few other individuals.

According to company registry information, CHARTWELL HOLDING LIMITED’s director is Mark while BEST COMBO LIMITED’s director includes Jimmy Lai. Chong Hong Construction Limited stated that it will plan to build an office building after purchasing the land.

Lai and Mark have travelled to the United States many times. Among them, Lai met with US Vice President Mike Pence in July last year, and Mark also explained the details of the meeting. Mark has always had multiple identities. As a former employee of the CIA, he was also the advertising director of Next Digital. Outside the company, Mark Simon was alleged to have been the chairman of the Hong Kong branch of the US Republican Party and had close ties with the US ambassador to China.
 

supersnoop

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The entire HK protests really brought up the hypocrisy of the West.

Western media oversimplify a very complex issue like HK protests into black/white or Good vs. Evil. with broad strokes and sensationalism and obfuscation and sometimes outright lies.

Brought out? The Iraq invasion didn't do that for you? Libya? Syria?

This is what they always do. Mainstream media generally is for consumption by the lowest common denominator.

Western views (Governments and media) on HK are always just simplified into "commies bad, freedom good!".

They use the same playbook they used for TW for years, now also for HK.
The biggest gap in this playbook is that there are no plays for pro-China, but not necessarily pro-CCP people. For US to maintain hegemony, these people are a roadblock because they basically want to keep the status quo and not necessarily disrupt PRC (Basically KMT's strategy). The only strategy is try to hollow out the moderate camps and push extremism. However, I'm sure people in the positions of power in the US know that such a strategy is weak at best (Afghanistan). A declaration of independence by radicals would just be met with a civil war type reaction as the territorial integrity of China would trump "democracy" for many moderate anti-CCP people (Applies to both HK and TW IMO).
 

shanlung

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Sad state of affairs for Apple daily, they are given them away free. Thus video showed a woman shouting it's free. She is also the same woman at every protest shouting her daughter is at the front line. She was also caught outside the metro crying because the children have died at 'police hand'. She gets everywhere. She gives a new meaning to rent a mob!


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This man just took all the free Apple daily and dumping them! Lol



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What a waste of newspaper and into harbour waters?

I be happy to take a pile of Apple Daily. I have a lovely Congo African Grey parrot Vorna . And those papers be useful under her perches.
IMG-20200811-WA0014.jpgEnjoying my char siew wonton braised chicken feet noodle. She loves noodles.
 
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This is typical in the US where you rattle off the obvious because you're talking to a dumb crowd that knows nothing in the first place hence basic facts looks intelligent. I remember a guy who was a part of known rock band was all of the sudden was a foreign policy expert. Republicans are desperate for celebrities and since he had right-wing thinking, he's all of the sudden a foreign policy expert. He was on a television debate show and all he did was rattle off saying Chen Shui-Bian and other right-wing propaganda and he sounds like an expert to Americans. He didn't add anything new to anyone who regularly reads the foreign affairs section of any newspaper wouldn't know themselves. All of the sudden you're an expert if you're a celebrity and can name the leader of a state correctly.
 

supersnoop

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Has anyone ever actually went to wikileaks?
This is old, but still gold
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Martin Lee and other Pro-US party politicians meeting with US government officials on how to destabilize HK
This was from 2006
 

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This is typical in the US where you rattle off the obvious because you're talking to a dumb crowd that knows nothing in the first place hence basic facts looks intelligent. I remember a guy who was a part of known rock band was all of the sudden was a foreign policy expert. Republicans are desperate for celebrities and since he had right-wing thinking, he's all of the sudden a foreign policy expert. He was on a television debate show and all he did was rattle off saying Chen Shui-Bian and other right-wing propaganda and he sounds like an expert to Americans. He didn't add anything new to anyone who regularly reads the foreign affairs section of any newspaper wouldn't know themselves. All of the sudden you're an expert if you're a celebrity and can name the leader of a state correctly.

You hit it right on the head. A more recent example is Fox New's Tucker Carlson (Republican Conservative) jizzing his pants when Crazy Kanye West says something he agrees with on abortion. You hit it right on the head. Check it out in
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AssassinsMace

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You hit it right on the head. A more recent example is Fox New's Tucker Carlson (Republican Conservative) jizzing his pants when Crazy Kanye West says something he agrees with on abortion. You hit it right on the head. Check it out in
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Here's the thing about Kanye West. He admits that he's just playing spoiler so Trump will win. Who is are going to vote for him? Trump supporters that would hurt Trump's chances and/or the dumb. If they're not Trump supporters, why would they vote for someone who acknowledges he's not going to win and throw their vote away? He's not going to be President. Only the dumb.
 

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Here's the thing about Kanye West. He admits that he's just playing spoiler so Trump will win. Who is are going to vote for him? Trump supporters that would hurt Trump's chances and/or the dumb. If they're not Trump supporters, why would they vote for someone who acknowledges he's not going to win and throw their vote away? He's not going to be President. Only the dumb.

Certain segments of the American population is getting dumber and dumber every year... Instead of the internet as a tool for learning and being expose to other culture, its become either a getaway drug or propaganda machine. With shelter-in-place happening so long and people only socializing with other people with the same ideaology, i expect division to be even worst in the future.
 
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