Hong-Kong Protests

Gatekeeper

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Of course they did, it's part of their master plan. Hong Kong is lost, it's too late to change that now. The only thing that matters now is where HK's wealth will go.

Yep, it is to be expected! shouldn't be surprised at all!
 

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I think it's about time Britain recogise its place in the current workd order! it is ni longer "Great" Britain. In a famous put down by an US president (I forgot which one) in the 1950s. It goes something like this (this is from my memory, so please don't take me to task on it) "Britain lost his empire, and its trying to find a role for itself"!

So now it's trying to get on the world stage with this "human rights" awards. Gee, has Britain ever look itself in the mirror

Pro-democracy activist Joshua Wong banned by Hong Kong court from travelling to London to receive human rights award from British parliament

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I’m going to throw a bit of a wild theory out here. In some ways this unrest resembles the popular “incel” rebellion. Not exactly of course, but here is my theory.

Young, violent, strong influence from internet “meme” culture, anti establishment (not just government, but also destroying institutions), feelings of helplessness, insecurity, and failure. HK (and China/Asia in general) are very high pressure cultures/societies, success is measured very objectively (academic achievement, professional advancement, wealth, etc.). "No points for effort" kind of place.

A good third of these rioters are actual kids, under 18 years old. I am not 100% familiar with the HK education system, but from my understanding, the competition begins early, and the trajectory is already determined by what secondary school you attend. If you don't get into a good high school, you're toast. By destroying the university, they are kind of striking back at the institutions that are rejecting them (similar to how incels want to get back at the opposite sex for rejecting them).

Many of the young adults, they are unemployed or underemployed. Many have gone as far as quitting their jobs to commit full time to civil disorder. I imagine for them to be willing to do that, these were not high paying jobs. That kind of job guarantees living at home, likely earning the ire of parents and family as "failures", social isolation as it is unlikely you will have success dating (This part applies to guys only, what kind of girl would date a guy with no place of his own? Especially in HK), thus turning to the internet like LIHKG for validation.

By clinging onto the manhua heroism, and the "unified front" dogma of no-criticism of radicals, they are trying to reclaim their sense of self worth, which is why the most radical keep saying they will die, etc. etc. The political slant seems like a convenient aegis for their living fantasy. The media (not just western, but apple daily and other such outlets too) paint them as heroes which feeds and fuels them.

As I mentioned, I admit this theory is not fully-baked, "incel" is not a recognized mental illness, political movement, or even social group. Also, these people aren't necessarily "incels" anyways, just resembling some the perceived issues. My theory also borrows from some of the economic imbalance issues already discussed. However, I think there are definitely some deeper psychological issues that are present and not really being discussed. None of this precludes foreign machinations either, as these issues can easily be identified and exploited. Anyway, just something that kind of came to me.
 

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I’m going to throw a bit of a wild theory out here. In some ways this unrest resembles the popular “incel” rebellion. Not exactly of course, but here is my theory.

Young, violent, strong influence from internet “meme” culture, anti establishment (not just government, but also destroying institutions), feelings of helplessness, insecurity, and failure. HK (and China/Asia in general) are very high pressure cultures/societies, success is measured very objectively (academic achievement, professional advancement, wealth, etc.). "No points for effort" kind of place.

A good third of these rioters are actual kids, under 18 years old. I am not 100% familiar with the HK education system, but from my understanding, the competition begins early, and the trajectory is already determined by what secondary school you attend. If you don't get into a good high school, you're toast. By destroying the university, they are kind of striking back at the institutions that are rejecting them (similar to how incels want to get back at the opposite sex for rejecting them).

Many of the young adults, they are unemployed or underemployed. Many have gone as far as quitting their jobs to commit full time to civil disorder. I imagine for them to be willing to do that, these were not high paying jobs. That kind of job guarantees living at home, likely earning the ire of parents and family as "failures", social isolation as it is unlikely you will have success dating (This part applies to guys only, what kind of girl would date a guy with no place of his own? Especially in HK), thus turning to the internet like LIHKG for validation.

By clinging onto the manhua heroism, and the "unified front" dogma of no-criticism of radicals, they are trying to reclaim their sense of self worth, which is why the most radical keep saying they will die, etc. etc. The political slant seems like a convenient aegis for their living fantasy. The media (not just western, but apple daily and other such outlets too) paint them as heroes which feeds and fuels them.

As I mentioned, I admit this theory is not fully-baked, "incel" is not a recognized mental illness, political movement, or even social group. Also, these people aren't necessarily "incels" anyways, just resembling some the perceived issues. My theory also borrows from some of the economic imbalance issues already discussed. However, I think there are definitely some deeper psychological issues that are present and not really being discussed. None of this precludes foreign machinations either, as these issues can easily be identified and exploited. Anyway, just something that kind of came to me.

Send them all to Xinjiang. Let them find their self-worth there.
 

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This is one unbelievable clip. If I tell people about this without video evidents, I'll get laugh out of court!

This viedo showed two local elected "democracy party" politicians talking to a rioters wearing the star & stripes proudly!

I give you two guesses who's the dominant force here! It is little wonder that these thugs behave the way they do when local politicians pampered to their every whimp!

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So even thugs are judges! There really is no hope!

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Don't think any of them escaped. Rumors said some escapes a couple days ago by climbing down from a bridge with motorcycles waiting to pick them up. Police only confirmed they caught 37 of them. 14 of the rioters might have escaped through the sewage system but not sure.

As of now, 1100 of the rioters got arrested in or nearby PolyU. 800 of them surrendered of which 300 of them are under 18(HKPF has agreed to not take people under 18 into custody but would take a photo and ID information and decide to press charge or not later.) HKPF believes that there might still be 2-300 rioters inside the PolyU.

This makes me laugh, it reminds me of that great film starring Steve McQueen, The Great Escape! lolFB_IMG_1574274787554.jpg
 

taxiya

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Yes, but the security cameras caught all the number plates of these bikes. So expect visits very soon, as the new chief of police had said you can escape for now, but not forever! I like the new tough message from the new man!

However I don't like the policy of letting under 18 go with warnings. This led to the thugs increase use these mindless children in the last few days to cause as much disruption as possible
Besides physical means like camera recording. A deal (by police of course, not the judges) can be made "tell 10 accomplice then you walk free". Of course that "free" has a string "we know who you are".

About the "under 18", they are registered for now, but not free from prosecution, the new police chief has said that. Minors do serve prison terms for severe crime albeit reduced. Also a registration in the police station will follow their whole life (案底) even if they could avoid prison. Only the most crazy children/parents would want that.
 

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Isn't this typical, from an Anglo?/Australian MSM! Still trying to peddle its Hong Kong protest is "just and peaceful" narratives! With headline like this, and a photo (i don't know how to upload) showing the policeman looking like Dath Vader, and the "peaceful protestor" with blood pouring from his head!


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Hong Kong has declared war against its young people
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