Hong-Kong Protests

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KIENCHIN

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supersnoop said:
This is just sad.
Discussing with a friend of mine, I said, I can understand if people do not CPC, CPC is not China. I think it is reasonable for them to wave ROC flags, because it is still Republic of CHINA. To want to be slaves to foreign regime, it is just a shame.

HK people were literally 2nd class citizens under British rule, no right to live in UK proper, no voting/representation in Parliament, and until the 70's, no hope in holding important government positions. Do they know this history?

This is why you know they have no future, they do not even know their own past.

After the handover, they did not go far enough in decolonizing. As someone said, there should be no Prince Edward station, in addition, there should be no King's Road, Queen's Road, etc. The government also should have pushed through the National education regardless of the concerns.

It seems to me most people in this thread are UK/USA/CAN/AUS Chinese with HK roots. Thus we are inundated with the constant "Fighting for Freedom" lie since these countries are within the US sphere.

Anyone here from SE Asia? I feel like the story is a little different in places like SG and Malaysia.
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You are right, there was not enough decolonisation effort done, in Malaysia one of the things done after independence was to rename roads,ports, and landmarks, starting with the major ones.One of the other major change was to revoke the privilege given to the British in terms of land rights so on and so forth. Sri Negara Carcossa which was featured in the movie Crazy Rich Asians was once the British ambassadors residence.All this was not done overnight mind you, it was a gradual process, the SAR had since 1997 to gradually change all this and they didn’t.
 
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I know we got some Canadians here, have you heard of this group from Vancover!

I can't believe such group exist. But this just prove the power of MSM!

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Its about time, Hong Kong law maker propsed banning of face mask, and make it illegal.

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It still requires Carrie Lam's consent. Besides the rioters would storm the legislative building again and make sure the bill couldn't be passed. Enacting the Emergency Law and using the Emergency Law to introduce laws toward banning of face mask or even banning the oppositions' media is much more easier. In the end of the day, it is up to Carrie Lam. I don't have much confident in her anymore due to the fact that she has caved too many times already.
 
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Jura said:
now noticed the tweet
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China strongly condemns and opposes the so-called Hong Kong Human Rights and Democracy Act of 2019 that got approval in US House and Senate committees on Sept. 25: Chinese FM spokesperson.
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This bill basically is designed to economically sanction and deny entry into the US for Chinese officials who intervene in Hong Kong. I don't see a problem with that. An official in China making important decisions should not have assets in other countries that can be used to influence his decision. If he does, that's a huge conflict of interest and he either needs to be removed or it needs to be clear that those assets are of little importance to him compared to doing his job. To me, as a Chinese official, you can't have a problem with this bill. For a Chinese official to openly have a problem with this bill is like a US senator irately opposing a bill that increases the penalty for statutory rape... in Thailand LOL. You're outing yourself!
 
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manqiangrexue said:
This bill basically is designed to economically sanction and deny entry into the US for Chinese officials who intervene in Hong Kong. I don't see a problem with that. An official in China making important decisions should not have assets in other countries that can be used to influence his decision. If he does, that's a huge conflict of interest and he either needs to be removed or it needs to be clear that those assets are of little importance to him compared to doing his job. To me, as a Chinese official, you can't have a problem with this bill. For a Chinese official to openly have a problem with this bill is like a senator irately opposing a bill that increases penalty for statutory rape. You're outing yourself! LOL
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and in the meantime
Beijing vows to retaliate after US’ Hong Kong human rights bill is approved by congressional committees
  • Foreign ministry spokesman says the bill is a malicious attempt to contain China’s rise
  • Hong Kong Human Rights and Democracy Act of 2019 progressed through Senate and House of Representatives committees on Wednesday
Updated: 10:48am, 26 Sep, 2019
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China said it would “hit back forcefully” at the United States after the US Congress officially
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with a bill to support democratic freedoms in Hong Kong by putting pressure on Chinese authorities.
“Passing the bill will only encourage the radical and violent forces in Hong Kong and send Hong Kong further into chaos,” Geng said. “It will harm not only China’s interests, but also the US’ interests.

“China will hit back forcefully at any US action that aims to hurt China’s interests.”

The Hong Kong Human Rights and Democracy Act of 2019 moved through the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and the House of Representatives Foreign Affairs Committee on Wednesday, setting the stage for votes in both chambers in the coming weeks.

The bill could pave the way for diplomatic action and economic sanctions against the Hong Kong government. If passed, it would, among other actions, require the US to sanction Chinese officials deemed responsible for “undermining basic freedoms in Hong Kong” and require the US president to review Hong Kong’s special economic status.

China’s foreign ministry spokesman Geng Shuang said in a statement on Thursday that the bill was an attempt to “wantonly interfere in China’s domestic affairs” and had shown the “malicious intention of some in the US Congress to contain China’s development”.

Beijing demanded that the US Congress stop taking the bill forward, to prevent “further strain on Sino-US relations”, Geng said in the statement.

A separate statement by the Hong Kong and Macau Affairs Office of the State Council said the bill was intended to support anti-China forces and rioters in Hong Kong, which would “pour oil on the flame”.

The statement described the Hong Kong people who demanded the passage of the bill as “traitors”. The city has seen over three months of mass anti-government protests triggered by opposition to a now-shelved
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that would have allowed the transfer of criminal suspects to the mainland.

The bill passed the House committee in a unanimous vote, said Jeff Sagnip, policy director for Representative Chris Smith, a New Jersey Republican who sponsored the legislation in the lower chamber.

An identical version of the bill in the Senate, sponsored by Republican Senator Marco Rubio, of Florida, was approved by the upper chamber committee soon afterwards.

“Getting out of the committee is the big step,” said Sagnip, who added that “a floor vote [in the full House of Representatives] will take place sometime in October”, most likely shortly after Columbus Day, a US holiday, on October 14.

The legislation is intended to act as an amendment to the US-Hong Kong Policy Act of 1992, which kept US business and other ties to the city intact after its 1997 handover from Britain to China.
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