Hong-Kong Protests


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TED CRUZ AND OTHERS​

Simon, said Chau, reported directly to Lai, executed his instructions and vetted requests for financial support, and the pair of them assisted Li to forge SWHK’s overseas contacts, notably in the US.

Indeed, Li, with Lai’s approval, reportedly sent a sanctions list targeting 144 politicians and officials to the then-managing director of the US-based Hong Kong Democracy Council, Samuel Chu Muk-man, the son of Occupy Central co-founder Chu Yiu-ming.

Having received the list, Chu, in respect of whom an arrest warrant is now in force for allegedly violating national security, passed it not only to US senators Ted Cruz and Rick Scott for action, but also to the Hong Kong Watch “Fellow”, Luke de Pulford, in the UK.

Chau also disclosed how, using Lai’s finances, Li and Finn Lau Cho-dick, another criminal fugitive, had created SWHK in August 2019. The choice of Lau was interesting, not least because he pioneered the protest movement’s “Lam Chau” strategy, and even deployed the LIHKG user name “I want Lam Chau”. [Editor’s note: Lam chau, meaning “frying together”, is a plan to deliberately crash the community’s economy.]


Whenever Lai and Simon needed to give instructions to Li and Lau, they were conveyed by Chan Tsz-wah. A key function of SWHK at this stage was to press for foreign sanctions, as well as to seek global condemnation of local and mainland officials, and the police force.

Hostile articles were placed in overseas newspapers, and foreign functionaries, like de Pulford, were allegedly engaged to persuade 32 countries to terminate their extradition and mutual legal assistance agreements with Hong Kong, which, of course, some did.

Lai and Simon, moreover, also offered free publicity for SWHK in Apple Daily, and Lau, who was described as its spiritual leader, was told he could use copyrighted photographs for propaganda purposes.

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Luke de Pulford wrongly told the UK public that Apple Daily was the biggest newspaper in Hong Kong, without revealing his financial connections

CASH FOR LOBBYING​

As regards SWHK’s crowdfunding campaigns in 2019-20, Chau revealed that these netted approximately HK$37.6 million. The money was used to publish propaganda and reports, like that of the APPG, to retain consultancy and lobbying firms, like Whitehouse, to organize demonstrations, and to sponsor foreign politicians visiting Hong Kong to observe the protests.

Intriguingly, however, it was not used to fund Alton’s trip to Hong Kong, nor that of de Pulford, who accompanied him, as Simon gave Li HK$500,000 to finance those particular junkets.

Having admitted the truth of the prosecution case, it remains to be seen if Li and Chan will give evidence against their co-accused. If so, and the evidence is truthful, they could qualify for a significant sentencing discount. Although prosecutors will be assembling as strong a case as possible against the remaining suspects, they will undoubtedly appreciate extra evidence, not least because it could help trigger further guilty pleas.

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Details of the outrageous scheme were revealed in court, and the accused confirmed their accuracy; picture by Scott Graham/ Unsplash

EXPOSED AS CRIMINAL CONSPIRACY​

But, irrespective of whether this is forthcoming, SWHK has finally been exposed as a criminal conspiracy, and everyone can now understand why it was always so secretive.

Quite clearly, everybody who worked with SWHK is guilty of violating national security, and must face justice. Although some suspects are facing trial, others are still at large, and must be pursued for as long as it takes. While they may imagine they are safe in their foreign hideaways, they can never afford to let their guard down, particularly when traveling. After all, criminal justice has a long reach, and is also very patient.

No matter the obstacles, the authorities must commit themselves to bringing to account anybody who sought to destroy Hong Kong and weaken China by collaborating with SWHK.
That looks like a CIA-run operation. All the accomplices should go to prison for a minimum of 20 years.

Yes, that also includes "kids". I remember when I was a kid I was playing around and making some small "courageous" acts.. However these kids were actively participating in treason.

A minimum of a 20 year long sentence should be enough to teach them some common sense that obviously their school and parents didnt
 

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That looks like a CIA-run operation. All the accomplices should go to prison for a minimum of 20 years.

Yes, that also includes "kids". I remember when I was a kid I was playing around and making some small "courageous" acts.. However these kids were actively participating in treason.

A minimum of a 20 year long sentence should be enough to teach them some common sense that obviously their school and parents didnt
Why bother? 20 year prison takes too long and cost the tax payers too much. You also assume these condoms knows how to learn, when in fact has proven otherwise. A bullet costs 20 cents. Treason carries the death penalty in china.
 

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Why bother? 20 year prison takes too long. A bullet costs 20 cents.
Yes yes I know. However these days we have to say that society is not "barbaric" "medieval" etc.

I agree with the bullet thing but the optics would be bad. Maybe reserve it in some special circumstances, like that Apple Daily owner editor or whatever he was
 

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That looks like a CIA-run operation. All the accomplices should go to prison for a minimum of 20 years.

Yes, that also includes "kids". I remember when I was a kid I was playing around and making some small "courageous" acts.. However these kids were actively participating in treason.

A minimum of a 20 year long sentence should be enough to teach them some common sense that obviously their school and parents didnt
CIA has long offloaded their funding and support to sister organizations like the
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and a huge laundry list of NGOs. It's a wonder why more governments don't ban these sh*t stirring groups and explicitly include them as foreign aggressors in their domestic national security laws.

I agree with prosecuting masterminds, lieutenants and soldiers. However, kids are basically retards. They are in their formative years and can't tell right from wrong. What they need is guidance and education along with something to ingrain responsibility and discipline into them, like military service. Only the most hardened and lost cases should be abandoned and either jailed long-term or "exiled" as refugees to hostile foreign countries that would love to take this kind of trash.
 

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It's a wonder why more governments don't ban these sh*t stirring groups and explicitly include them as foreign aggressors in their domestic national security laws
Its because when you allow these groupsx you implicitly say that you recognise the US as the hegemon. Can you imagine small Pakistan, EU countries, Sri Lanka etc banning NGOs? Uncle Sam would come and teach them a lesson on who is the predator and who is the duck.


What they need is guidance and education along with something to ingrain responsibility and discipline into them, like military service.
Boy scouts, military, gymnastics, parades etc all lead to stronger discipline and sense of responsibility. Currently, HK youth is rotten to the bone. Dismal future for when these people age and start taking leadership positions..
 

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Secessionist:
"The Hong Kong government has violated a pledge not to apply the city’s national security law to alleged crimes committed before its enactment last summer, pro-democracy advocates and legal experts told a US congressional panel on Wednesday."

PRC:
:p

Seriously, some idiots complaining to the US about how China decides to implement its law. Do these morons think that a foreign country could hold some power over China?
 

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According to an indictment shared with The Globe, one of the primary accounts used for payments was one belonging to Lais Hotel Properties, which was linked to around $1-million paid to seven newspapers in Canada, the United States, the United Kingdom and Japan.

I hate to reference myself, but this is precisely what I had pointed out in 2019. Simply impossible for the timing of the crowdfunding campaign to have financed the worldwide newspaper ads.

Finn Lau, a founder of Stand With Hong Kong who now lives in exile in the U.K., said he had never heard of the hotel chain before this month.

“I am not aware of it at all,” he said. “Andy Li handled the nitty gritty of bank transfer. In essence, all financial resources came from public crowdfunding.”

How convenient, fin... "I don't know anything!"

Mr. Lau added that if Mr. Lai, a multimillionaire, was a secret backer of the campaign “my teams would not need to rely on crowdfunding at all.”

This guy loves to play stupid... "Durrr, you mean the crowdfunding money could have come from Lai?? What is 'funneling?'"
The quote about a fool opening his mouth...

Mr. Patterson, the Hong Kong Watch policy director, said it was “quite possible, given the absurd extraterritorial nature of the National Security Law, that the hotel chain could receive a court summons from Hong Kong,”

Mr. Patterson, I am sure Meng Wanzhou agrees with you! Does Hong Kong Watch stand with Meng Wanzhou? Arrested in a third country for US crimes, who is not a national of the US, against a bank that is not HQ'd in the US, alleged crimes not committed in the US since all the meetings were in China...

https://www.reddit.com/r/ontario/comments/41k2cd People not tolerant of Chinese wealth? Can't believe it! BNO's don't have to worry about it I'm sure.

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His/his sister's hotels in Niagara are no proof of any wrongdoing in itself. His Giordano chain (945 stores in mainland China, doesn't like mainlanders, but doesn't mind their money!) has been successful for quite some time. He also acquired the property in Canada before the big boom the last few years. My real point is that between his wealth and many shell corporations, he makes an ideal point man to run such an operation. There was another wealthy businessman who had engaged in precisely the same kind of enterprise 40 years ago in some country that was being occupied by the Soviet Union. His name was O-something bin-something.... sure you can google it.
 

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Why bother? 20 year prison takes too long and cost the tax payers too much. You also assume these condoms knows how to learn, when in fact has proven otherwise. A bullet costs 20 cents. Treason carries the death penalty in china.

China still use bullets to execute murderers and send their family the bill of 20 cent for the bullet. Lol

Yes yes I know. However these days we have to say that society is not "barbaric" "medieval" etc.

I agree with the bullet thing but the optics would be bad. Maybe reserve it in some special circumstances, like that Apple Daily owner editor or whatever he was

Barbaric? In western countries such as U.S. and U.K. you can still be hang for treason! But they keep that very kept whilst gaslighting other countries "barbaric" capital punishment. Lol
 

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