Hong-Kong Protests

Washington and its partners should lower their expectations and abandon the illusion that the right mixture of punishments will prompt a reversal in Chinese policy.

The goal of leading democracies should instead be to highlight to the rest of the world that China broke its promises, which will have the effect of sowing doubt about Beijing’s trustworthiness and credibility. After all, if it broke its promises to Hong Kong, why believe it won’t do the same elsewhere? Reminding the world of Hong Kong’s lost democratic traditions will also demonstrate that despite

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, the United States and its allies value democracy and believe it can work anywhere, including in Chinese-speaking societies. To be most effective, Western countries need to coordinate their messages condemning China’s actions in Hong Kong and issue them regularly and consistently, since officials in China and other countries will be watching to see if Washington and its partners continue to care about Hong Kong after media attention has turned elsewhere.

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Finally, the United States should continue to apply sanctions on individuals who are responsible for major new repressive moves in Hong Kong, not because such punishments work—Chinese officials actually get promoted if they get sanctioned by Washington—but because to abandon them now after already carrying out two previous rounds of sanctions would send the wrong signal to China and global observers about the intensity and durability of the U.S. commitment to Hong Kong.

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It is only natural for the United States to look for ways to counter China’s growing power and to push back against Beijing’s bid to challenge U.S. global leadership. But the United States’ inability to make China regret—much less reverse—its transgressions in Hong Kong suggests that financial separation, sanctions, and economic barriers are less reliable tools than many in Washington believe.

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weig2000 said:

This Foreign Affairs article pretty much summarizes the effect of all the Western sanctions against Hong Kong (and China) since the NSL was enacted: they don't work!

So what now? Moral victories, of course.

The conclusion or rather the lesson learned:

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daifo said:

Lame hk student union apology not accepted

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supersnoop said:

You know what's funny about that article?
Very few of the quoted numbers are "real"



The relevant quote from the document:


So basically a random person said so...

I get that it's an opinion piece, but this person is really using the word "real" quite liberally.

Some other great bits:

Opinions regarding Tiananmen aside, it cannot be argued that it was an iconic moment in recent Chinese history. So this person is saying the national security law is equal to tanks rolling down the street... Did the author get the memo that PLA soldiers are under orders not to wear uniform outside facilities at all times?



So the author's idea of historical wrong is the return of territory that was taken by force, under the pretenses of continuing to deal drugs? Making it right only requires giving people born before 1997 an out! No wonder the PM of Canada thinks all he has to do for all the dead indigenous children is say "sorry" and lower some flags! It's the British way!

Also I suppose the author does not consider the following "historical wrongs":
- The unwritten apartheid policy until the 70's (no Chinese judges, senior police officials, never any governors)
- Massacre of hundreds of villagers in the early years of British rule and dozens killed by British police during the riots of 1967.

Meanwhile under the tyranny of the CCP
- All CEs were locally born in HK
- Despite intense months long rioting, not 1 single death directly caused by police

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daifo said:

Lame hk student union apology not accepted

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plawolf said:

They should raid the university administration next. Students openly support terrorism and they just cut ties with the Union?!

If this was the ‘free’ west, active disciplinaries would have been instantly opened on all the students involved, which in turn would have been a mere formality before they were expelled. The fact that none of this happened even now is pretty damn evidence of collusion or even active support from the university staff that needs urgent investigation and a thorough purging.

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supersnoop said:

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Another HK exodus article, funny, they cite a website that Hong Kong residents are leaving about 1000 everyday.

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Funny, by that websites own data, the net outflow is lower this year than last on a month to month comparison, so does it really mean anything?

Furthermore, the 250 million withdrawal from the HKMPF Scheme is always bandied about by these articles, the total estimated invested in the MPF is 1 Trillion, so really, this is just a drop in the bucket.

This is such a joke, where the guy starts crying "It's not my Hong Kong anymore! I had to leave!". Let's use a little critical thinking here.
He tried to leave 3 times... finally got away by boat... Assuming since he left by boat, he probably did not have access to assets. Suddenly he has enough money for a plane ticket to Washington DC and has an apartment with that baggio leung? (as an aside, he is really ugly just like joshua wong).

A new immigrant with limited english skills (Assumed since he's speaking cantonese to an English publication, and his comrades are speaking english, poorly in the case of teabaggio), Washington DC is the first place you think of for immigration? Not NYC or California which have more Chinese people?

Pretty much tells you how Fxxxking dumb the USA wants people to be. Just believe they are freedom fighters fighting for their rights! The fact that they are in Washington DC is a total coincidence

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supersnoop said:

as an aside, he is really ugly just like joshua wong).

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Bellum_Romanum said:

This comment of yours made me laugh so hard I don't know why ...These people has been so thoroughly brainwashed by the Western led media driven narrative about "revolution" the notion of "political freedom" and the while concept of "democracy" and human rights without actually studying, understanding these laudable human noble ideals and it's actual historical applications in human history. All these western trained monkeys needed to do was scream "Democracy" "Human Rights" then top that with CCP evil China they got their degree in becoming human rights and democracy.

American educational standards or expertise ain't that high just look at their so-called Christian theocratic mobs and high school dropouts social media influencers that has dominated the American political discourse. Which is why people like the dude on that yotube clip are beyond clueless; they are these wide eyed naive simpletons convinced of their own mega importance because of the "belief" that what they're fighting for has some kind of divine providence which is influenced by their warped messianic Christian teachings.

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Gatekeeper said:

Freedom and democracy. They cried!

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