That's not the youngest. There was a 12 year old girl arrested IIRC.
Hong-Kong Protests
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Hi Wolfie, long time no speak.
This is redolent of the ongoing and endless arguments I am having with Mrs S, who cannot see beyond the narrow perspective of Hong Kong.
I say to her that the CCP will see very little difference between the black clad, fundamentalist Christian rioters in Hong Kong and the black clad fundamentalist muslim Jihadi's in Xinjiang.
All that seems to do is make her even more upset. (When I really want to upset her I just say that Beijing would never accept a "Banana" Republic on its territory.
I think she has serious expat syndrome. She has not lived in HK for nearly forty years, but all my brother and sister in laws, always have done and they are strictly pro LC and pro China
JPMorgan Banker Punched by Hong Kong Protester as Tensions Mount
(Bloomberg) -- A JPMorgan Chase & Co. employee was punched outside the company’s main Hong Kong offices amid increasingly violent political protests in the city, leading the firm to tell workers that it’s boosting security and that they should avoid the building over the weekend.
The employee, who wasn’t identified in a JPMorgan memo about the incident, was surrounded Friday afternoon by photographers as well as protesters shouting “Go back to the mainland!” The banker spoke in Mandarin, at one point responding, “We are all Chinese.” As he made his way into the building lobby, one protester hit him in the face, knocking his eyeglasses off, according to a video circulated on social media. It isn’t clear from the video what sparked the altercation, and there’s no indication it was connected to his employer.
“Some of you will be aware of an incident today that occurred outside of our Chater House office involving an employee,” JPMorgan said in the memo to workers, seen by Bloomberg. “We want to reiterate that we have put in place additional security for all of our buildings and continue to closely monitor the situation in Hong Kong.”
The employee is a private banker, said a person familiar with the incident, asking not to be identified. A JPMorgan representative declined to comment on the altercation.
Hong Kong on Friday invoked emergency powers for the first time in more than half a century to ban face masks for protesters after months of unrest, prompting demonstrators to once again occupy downtown streets. Chief Executive Carrie Lam said the move was necessary to stem increased violence in recent weeks, including attacks by protesters using petrol bombs, corrosive liquids and other weapons.
The episode at the JPMorgan offices underscored the challenges faced by international companies as they try to navigate the increasingly fraught environment in Hong Kong. The protests have put the city on edge, with tensions running high between backers of the demonstrations and those who show sympathy with the Hong Kong government and Beijing.
The prohibition on face masks will deter violence and help police enforce the law, Lam said, adding that the measure didn’t mean Hong Kong was under a state of emergency. As she spoke, protesters began gathering in the city’s Central business district and occupying major boulevards. Shops closed early in anticipation that demonstrations would grow violent.
“Non-essential employees who are planning to work over the weekend should not come into the office and instead are encouraged to work from home for any necessary weekend work,” JPMorgan’s security staff for the Asia-Pacific region said in the memo.
To contact the reporter on this story: Alfred Liu in Hong Kong at [email protected]
To contact the editors responsible for this story: Candice Zachariahs at [email protected], Daniel Taub, Michael Patterson
I am actually very permissive about things in the short-term. Those sensational stories and bias media have justified the rioters' actions such as attacking random people on the streets, vandalizing shops, banks, public transportation and restaurants, and blocking streets and airport.
In addition, peer pressure is a major problem. Many school principals and teachers are encouraging students to participate in the protests. When twelve and thirteen years old are involved in violent protests, you know things are really bad. Although it might be a desperate move by the rioters to push young kids to commit violent, it also demonstrated their extensive influence.
More importantly, direct threats from the rioters to anyone who dare to speak up. Many shop owners that spoke out against the rioters have their shops vandalized. People have apartments and homes trashed. Ancestor graves shattered. Most people are too afraid to stand up against these rioters.
Like I said before, anti-mask law is not enough. I don't think curfew is effective. If they are not going to outright banning LIHKG, Golden, and Apples News, then using 101 to grant HK citizens the power to arrest, extending the time that a person can be detained in custody, or declare the state of emergency.
In addition, peer pressure is a major problem. Many school principals and teachers are encouraging students to participate in the protests. When twelve and thirteen years old are involved in violent protests, you know things are really bad. Although it might be a desperate move by the rioters to push young kids to commit violent, it also demonstrated their extensive influence.
More importantly, direct threats from the rioters to anyone who dare to speak up. Many shop owners that spoke out against the rioters have their shops vandalized. People have apartments and homes trashed. Ancestor graves shattered. Most people are too afraid to stand up against these rioters.
Like I said before, anti-mask law is not enough. I don't think curfew is effective. If they are not going to outright banning LIHKG, Golden, and Apples News, then using 101 to grant HK citizens the power to arrest, extending the time that a person can be detained in custody, or declare the state of emergency.
Jura The idiot
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now I read
There’s no silent majority in Hong Kong, only a terrified minority while the rest are fine with mob rule and anarchy
There’s no silent majority in Hong Kong, only a terrified minority while the rest are fine with mob rule and anarchy
- Yonden Lhatoo questions the narrative that most Hongkongers are opposed to protest violence, as hardly anyone speaks out against the systematic destruction of what was once a great city
Most Hong Kongers are apolitical, or you can say indifference. It has been like this since the colonial years. People simply don't care and just want to make money. That's why Hong Kong is called the most capitalist city in the world.
The problem is most of the youngsters that born after late 80s were grown up in a much better environment. They have not endorsed any hardship and were spoiled by their parents. This new generation of young people prefer handouts and welfare state than competition. It is such an ironic. A free market city that is strongly against CCP but wants to become a welfare state. When you see all the prejudice and discrimination against mainlanders, it is not just politics but also economics and social. When a bunch of young people that have no sense of duty or obligation and want to eat the cake and can't compete, then you have a society that is dysfunctional. Appledaily and the oppositions prey on these vulnerabilities and shortcomings. As a result, you have a new generation of people who believe the society, the government, and mainland Chinese have wronged them, and they are justified to do anything to correct these injustice.
The silent majority does exist but most of them are indifference. A few that do come out are silenced by threats and intimidation. That's I say let HK rot isn't that bad idea. Because people need to understand they have a stake in the society and need to speak out and stand up. I would especially point out the government officials in other departments need to do their jobs and Carrie Lam needs to take decisive actions. It is absurd that only the HKPF is doing anything to end the chaos.
The problem is most of the youngsters that born after late 80s were grown up in a much better environment. They have not endorsed any hardship and were spoiled by their parents. This new generation of young people prefer handouts and welfare state than competition. It is such an ironic. A free market city that is strongly against CCP but wants to become a welfare state. When you see all the prejudice and discrimination against mainlanders, it is not just politics but also economics and social. When a bunch of young people that have no sense of duty or obligation and want to eat the cake and can't compete, then you have a society that is dysfunctional. Appledaily and the oppositions prey on these vulnerabilities and shortcomings. As a result, you have a new generation of people who believe the society, the government, and mainland Chinese have wronged them, and they are justified to do anything to correct these injustice.
The silent majority does exist but most of them are indifference. A few that do come out are silenced by threats and intimidation. That's I say let HK rot isn't that bad idea. Because people need to understand they have a stake in the society and need to speak out and stand up. I would especially point out the government officials in other departments need to do their jobs and Carrie Lam needs to take decisive actions. It is absurd that only the HKPF is doing anything to end the chaos.
AssassinsMace
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Earlier in this thread some of you expressed your realizations about the media because of the bias reporting. Maybe because I live in the US where Asians are a minority among minorities, I've known this since I was a kid that the media is full of liars. I can remember at least thirty years ago I was watching a local TV talk show here in liberal San Francisco where the topic was the shortage of organ donations in the US. They literally blamed it on Asians accusing them of willing to take an organ but not donating theirs. At the time the Asian-American population in the US was around 7 million in a country with 250 million people. So it's Asians fault there's an organ donation problem because they're not giving up their organs more than any other group in the US? The odds are that an Asian giving up their organs, they will go to someone white and an Asian needing an organ will less likely to get one than everyone else.
I was watching the news where the Hong Kong protests are getting more attention because of the Trump scandal over Ukraine that Trump may have traded silence over Hong Kong for a trade concession with China. It's quite obviously didn't happen because at the time when the call to Ukraine happened was when Trump suddenly slapped more tariffs on China when for months he said trade negotiations have been going great. So China must've said no to Trump when asking for dirt on Joe Biden and his son. And despite all the stories in the media that trade negotiations are going nowhere... The media is no different in lying today than they were back then and they have the gall to believe they have integrity and honor. The media has to perpetuate the lies that the protestors are innocent little lambs being shot now to make it worse for Trump being silent.
Beating people because they speak Mandarin...This would be considered a hate crime in a country that says they believe in the rule of law but since the self-anointed champions of humanity don't see it. Don't ever believe following their world order will ever be fair. When they charge that China is trying to destroy the international system... good, because that international system they created was designed to serve their self-interests first. When in history was this summit of the world called to decide this international order that China is out to destroy? The League of Nations? The United Nations? Both institutions that the US got to decide which countries could be a part of it. China wasn't allowed to be a part of either one at their founding. When they make an exception on human rights even being silent on it when they open their mouths on everything else like it's okay here where someone can be beaten just for speaking another language, they don't believe in or have a concept of what human rights means. They just know if they say it they get protection and no one can question nor criticize them. It's like one of Pavlov's dogs. Look at how activist civil rights lawyers will protect the rights of hate groups. That's how low they see the Chinese where the don't even bother caring about the rights of someone who gets beaten for speaking another language. It's their side doing the beating, so they're okay with it. If the world would rather believe in the lies for their geo-political interests and certainly not for human rights for all, the Western world order should be challenged.
I was watching the news where the Hong Kong protests are getting more attention because of the Trump scandal over Ukraine that Trump may have traded silence over Hong Kong for a trade concession with China. It's quite obviously didn't happen because at the time when the call to Ukraine happened was when Trump suddenly slapped more tariffs on China when for months he said trade negotiations have been going great. So China must've said no to Trump when asking for dirt on Joe Biden and his son. And despite all the stories in the media that trade negotiations are going nowhere... The media is no different in lying today than they were back then and they have the gall to believe they have integrity and honor. The media has to perpetuate the lies that the protestors are innocent little lambs being shot now to make it worse for Trump being silent.
Beating people because they speak Mandarin...This would be considered a hate crime in a country that says they believe in the rule of law but since the self-anointed champions of humanity don't see it. Don't ever believe following their world order will ever be fair. When they charge that China is trying to destroy the international system... good, because that international system they created was designed to serve their self-interests first. When in history was this summit of the world called to decide this international order that China is out to destroy? The League of Nations? The United Nations? Both institutions that the US got to decide which countries could be a part of it. China wasn't allowed to be a part of either one at their founding. When they make an exception on human rights even being silent on it when they open their mouths on everything else like it's okay here where someone can be beaten just for speaking another language, they don't believe in or have a concept of what human rights means. They just know if they say it they get protection and no one can question nor criticize them. It's like one of Pavlov's dogs. Look at how activist civil rights lawyers will protect the rights of hate groups. That's how low they see the Chinese where the don't even bother caring about the rights of someone who gets beaten for speaking another language. It's their side doing the beating, so they're okay with it. If the world would rather believe in the lies for their geo-political interests and certainly not for human rights for all, the Western world order should be challenged.