History of Tanks & World of Tanks Documentary


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It seems like the F2P MMO World of Tanks is producing its own historical documentaries and posting them on youtube, this is their piece on the history of early 20th century Chinese tanks, can anyone here evaluate the quality and historical accuracy of this piece?
 

luhai

Banned Idiot
reasonable accurate, however WZ-111 is basically a paper project, with only chassis and IS-3 turret.

WZ-122 actually give some result, it has a full prototype and ATGM attached to the turret (a fairly innovative feature at the time) . it now reside in tank musuem in somewhat sad condition..
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the atgm on the tank was later the basis for HJ-8, the project wasn't a complete waste.
 
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montyp165

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This game is really addictive, I mean most every forum I've been to has a group for it in one form or another.
 

luhai

Banned Idiot
There is actually a program with a Chinese Senior Colonel explaining the WZ-111 for World of Tanks... PLA is really upping the PR game.
[video=youtube;2qwmhOw2uAA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qwmhOw2uAA[/video]

Basically WZ-111 got canceled because it was behind the times, and the resources went to Type 69 and WZ-122 instead.

Here is the semi official info from china.com about WZ-122
120mm Main Gun
4xATGM (became HJ-8)
12.7mm machine gun
7.62mm machine gun
700HP engine


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WZ122 (failed in 1970, too much for the deign team to take on. Many sub-systems failed)
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WZ122-1 (Stopped in 1973)
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WZ122-3 (essentially WZ122 Turret with modified type 69 chassis. Evolved to Type-80, after western tech improvements)
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WZ122-4 (New turret design,project started in 1978. formed basis for Type-88/Type 96)
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By 1978, the project is transformed into the familiar Type 80 and HJ-8 projects. And I would say WZ-122 project really ends at Type 96, as it's only then all the design objective are met. (take out the T-72/T-64/M60, and able to launch ATGM) Though in the 1980s, the Chinese tank industry was side tracked by the Jaguar Tank project. Lots of wasted effort and money with essentially nothing to show for.
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kwaigonegin

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By 1978, the project is transformed into the familiar Type 80 and HJ-8 projects. And I would say WZ-122 project really ends at Type 96, as it's only then all the design objective are met. (take out the T-72/T-64/M60, and able to launch ATGM) Though in the 1980s, the Chinese tank industry was side tracked by the Jaguar Tank project. Lots of wasted effort and money with essentially nothing to show for.
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wow! I if I didn't read it I wouldn't have believe it. Imagined, a joint US/China MBT created to battle the Russkis LOL
 

ABC78

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I had forgotten about this tank mainly because the book that I first read about it years ago had no pictures and was only a page and categorized as international since it was a joint production.

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b787

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The TNCA Salinas was Mexico’s first indigenous tank. The vehicle was influenced in it’s design by the British Mark I and was the brain-child of Alberto Leopoldo Salinas Carranza or possibly Gustavo Salinas, both were Mexican Aviators and the former was the father of the Mexican Air Force. Little information is available on the specifics of the Salinas tank however an educated guess based on the pictures available along with comparisons against contemporary designs suggest that in addition to its main armament and two side mounted machine guns, it had a crew of 6 to 8 and an engine generating 90-100 hp. The prototype and possibly only vehicle was assembled in 1917 at the Talleres Nacionales de Construcciones Aeronauticas (TNCA), located in Balbuena outside Mexico City; the company specialized manufactured a variety of military aircraft, propeller and engines of domestically-design. The vehicle was built for Mexico’s Constitutionalist Army. It is possible the vehicle was used during revolts of the 1920s. The vehicle would eventually end its life as a guard post at the Balbuena Military Air Base before being scrapped with the arrival of imports from the US; specifically those from Marmon Herrington.
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TerraN_EmpirE

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Those tanks would be almost a century old. Today the Mexican Army has no tanks to speak of the closest they have are Panhard ECR 90 F1 6x6 armored cars with a turret packing a 90 cannon. Against a modern MBT they stand no chance. Of course realistically Mexico has more to fear from its self then its neighbors.
 
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b787

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Those tanks would be almost a century old. Today the Mexican Army has no tanks to speak of the closest they have are Panhard ECR 90 F1 6x6 armored cars with a turret packing a 90 cannon. Against a modern MBT they stand no chance. Of course realistically Mexico has more to fear from its self then its neighbors.
to be honest i did not know Mexico had built tanks as early as 1917, i knew the Mexican revolution had a lot of weapons but never tanks, i just found it interesting:)
 

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