H-20 bomber (with H-X, JH-XX)

Tomboy

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#10 - Last-but-not-least, there is one key mention: One of the Horten Brothers' designs (I interpret this refers to the best if not one of the best) isn't being carried forward and realized in Germany or the United States, but in China. (I'm not sure which specific design(s) did they refer to.)
I just listened to the podcast, I think they weren't referring to any specific design but just the fact that the flying wing concept is ironically finding much more success in China rather than the US or Germany.
 

ACuriousPLAFan

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I just listened to the podcast, I think they weren't referring to any specific design but just the fact that the flying wing concept is ironically finding much more success in China rather than the US or Germany.

That would be quite an interesting observation, given how the US is the first one to actually put flying wing designs into use, and also the one to put flying wing designs into wider usage (as of current).

In that case, here's wondering what other flying wing design aircrafts that China have up her sleeve which haven't been observed until now...
 

Tomboy

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That would be quite an interesting observation, given how the US is the first one to actually put flying wing designs into use, and also the one to put flying wing designs into wider usage (as of current).

In that case, here's wondering what other flying wing design aircrafts that China have up her sleeve which haven't been observed until now...
IMO, they probably meant that China has been the one to utilize the design en masse as US really only had a handful of flying wing aircrafts while China has dozens of designs flying of varies sizes and shapes. They also mention seeing a extremely large solar powered UAV(That presumably is similar to NASA Helios thus also a flying wing design) at CH's facility and said that the 70m hangars at Malan could possibly be for housing a large solar powered UAV.
 
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AndrewJ

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Everyone should give up ideas like "subsonic stealth bombers are useless". :rolleyes:

Trump has already proven their value with a successful & incredible mission against Iran.

J-36 can't carry things like GBU-57. Meanwhile, unstealth bombers aren't survivable in a penetration strike.
 

zyklon

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Everyone should give up ideas like "subsonic stealth bombers are useless". :rolleyes:

Trump has already proven their value with a successful & incredible mission against Iran.

J-36 can't carry things like GBU-57. Meanwhile, unstealth bombers aren't survivable in a penetration strike.

Subsonic stealth bombers can and have penetrated Iranian airspace, but is the H-20 intended for striking Iran?
 

CMP

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They can be used against India's underground Command & Control centers. (Just an example)
India can't even handle Pakistan. China's eye is on the real pacing challenge. In that regards, stealth bombers with supercruise are the bare minimum for survivability in the face of 5th or 6th gen fighters. Or if the goal is to leapfrog into first place, then hypersonic stealth bombers are required.
 

zyklon

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They can be used against India's underground Command & Control centers. (Just an example)

Come on dude: we obviously both know that India isn't the H-20's intended target!

Otherwise, you wouldn't have added "Just an example" to the end of your post.

The threat that the People's Republic of China has been preparing to fight for decades, if not since the end of the Korean War, is far more capable than Iran and India combined.

This threat necessitates remedies that surpass the state of the art solutions in its possession. With that said, I'm sticking with my prognosis that the H-20 is a supersonic platform, assuming a bomber designated as such is ultimately unveiled.
 

Tomboy

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This threat necessitates remedies that surpass the state of the art solutions in its possession. With that said, I'm sticking with my prognosis that the H-20 is a supersonic platform, assuming a bomber designated as such is ultimately unveiled.
China has bigger fish to fry than India. Do you think a subsonic bomber taking off from China can destroy NORAD? Exactly.
I still think it's nigh-impossible to design a supercruising bomber that has global range and stealthier than the B-21 with current technology. Survivability isn't the only consideration as being detectable means the enemy can consistently force you to abandon your attacks even if they can't shoot you down.
 
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