H-20 bomber (with H-X, JH-XX)

Nx4eu

Nx4eu

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ying1978 said:
The shortest route to reach US mainland from China is to take off from Heilongjiang, fly over the Russian Far East, skirt south of the Kamchatka Peninsula, Aleutian Islands, then reach the US West Coast. Assuming we are doing a peace time patrol and avoids entering other country's air space except Russia, this route measures about 75,00 km one way and 15,000 km round trip. This is not much further than the combat range of the Tu-160 and totally doable with air refueling.

Alternatively, if we choose a Pacific route without entering Russian airspace, Japan will be in the way making the jounery much longer. We have to fly through the Miyako Strait and Izu Islands, two choke points heavily monitored by radar, before reaching Calfornia. The distance is about 20,000 km round trip which, IMHO, is beyond the reach of PLA's current technologies.
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15,000-16,000km unrefueled range sounds about right. Given it's been speculated to be powered by 4xWS-18/D-30KP-2 if we apply the numbers and compare them to be similar to B-2 so about a thrust to weight ratio of ~0.205. The MTOW should be around 260 tons and the max fuel capacity around 118 tons. Applying a similar L/D ratio to the B-2 of around 20 would get a Max range of 16,000 km. This would make the H-20 the second largest in service bomber in the world at MTOW of 260 tons behind the Tu-160 with a MTOW of 275 tons. This is just speculative of course.
 
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charles18

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asif iqbal said:
The Pacific is vast and big and I am sure China has worked out some blind "corridors" where a stream of H20 bombers can transit through

H20 needs to be high in stealth , ultra long range and a very heavy payload

they also need a very large number of these bombers, China need to be able to create a air bridge over to the US mainland

a sustained heavy bombing campaign of the Western Seaboard and even if possible the Eastern Seaboard needs to be in place

there is absolutely no point in taking out the US assets in the Pacific if they can simply rebuild and come back at a later date like the did against Japan in WW2
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I made a similar case almost 3 years ago. I basically said in a WW3 scenario China will hit Hawaii and also the continental USA. There were some senior members on this forum that "flew off the handle" and SHOUTED me down and SHUT me down. In their minds my comment was not worthy of serious discussion only ridicule. Fast forward 3 years to the present the pendulum has swung to the other side. I think most people today understand that in a WW3 scenario China will have some capacity to hit the continental USA.

How much of a role will the H20 bomber play? It depends on when WW3 happens and how many H20 bombers China will have ready by then.
 
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dingyibvs

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burritocannon said:
i don't think a ww3 kinetic scenario can end favorably for china unless it has the capability to hit anywhere it wants to in the us. the japanese failed to comprehend the sheer magnitude of america's strategic depth and paid for it bitterly.
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I think we'll be reaching the nuclear threshold before that. If not then it'll be an "island hopping" exercise, and not necessarily toward the East either. Beyond the 1st island chain, China mostly needs to maintain the SLOC to the west, so it would make sense to attack Westward as American ability to strike China from beyond the 1IC will be limited.
 
00CuriousObserver

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I listened to the paid episode on F-47, the part of interest on H-20 was two sentences:

(Talking about how H-20 has taken so many years for development that its completetion is not a surprise compared to the PPT art of the F-47)

Yankee: 你现去某个厂房里能看到东西 - if you go to a certain factory you will see something (here the "something" implies the plane itself)


Shilao: 扔掉的东西不知凡几 - so much has been thrown away (likely referring to how much the plane has undergone redesigns and changes)

It's at 97:30 in that episode.
 
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ACuriousPLAFan

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00CuriousObserver said:
(Talking about how H-20 has taken so many years for development that its completion is not a surprise compared to the PPT art of the F-47)
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Can you explain more on what this sentence means?

Is it something like the final form of the H-20 is likely to be different from the how the H-20 has been shown in the PPTs and/or widely anticipated by the PLA observers so far? Or is the actual meaning something else entirely?
 
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