H-20 bomber (with H-X, JH-XX)
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He also removed the J-18 from the Attack Aircraft I section, so perhaps the H-18 is SAC's new striker/bomber and not a SU-34 like striker?
JayBird
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Like I said before something must be up with this JH-XX or H-18 project with so much chatters about it the last few weeks. From GrassRoot posting the line drawing to BaiWei's new CG. It's hinting re-start of the project or some breakthrough was make with the on going project that was kept secret. My wishful thinking maybe....
Here is another guy (某某某某 from CJDBY)with his version of the JH-XX. Although his CG art is not as skillful as GrassRoot and BaiWei, but who knows maybe his version will look closer to the real thing. Let my avatar fly!
Yeah, since the last rumors back in 2013 IIRC, I had thought this project was dead or cancelled, but now with so much talk of this bomber/striker, I think there might be a chance this project was revived or was secretly being developed the whole time. So perhaps blurry images in a few monthsLike I said before something must be up with this JH-XX or H-18 project with so much chatters about it the last few weeks. From GrassRoot posting the line drawing to BaiWei's new CG. It's hinting re-start of the project or some breakthrough was make with the on going project that was kept secret. My wishful thinking maybe....
Here is another guy (某某某某 from CJDBY)with his version of the JH-XX. Although his CG art is not as skillful as GrassRoot and BaiWei, but who knows maybe his version will look closer to the real thing. Let my avatar fly!
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BTW nice avatar.
GreenestGDP
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Like I said before something must be up with this JH-XX or H-18 project with so much chatters about it the last few weeks. ... .... Let my avatar fly!
I noticed it -- yours is very nice avatar
Frankly, I am a bit disappointed, if they restart the JH-XX or H-18 project.
Does that mean the Hypersonic UAV / Hypersonic Manned Aircraft project is still too far away, and it will not show up anytime soon ??
Unless of course, it is like the replay of J-20 and J-31 all over again.
What I meant is --- SAC is worry that CAC * Hypersonic UAV / Hypersonic Manned Aircraft project is gaining too much traction, therefore SAC is hastily restart the JH-XX or H-18 project, timing it with some critical technological breakthrough.
Also, I am sensing the rate of technological breakthrough seems to be getting faster and faster.
Maybe, most Scientists and other supporting staffs @ PLA Industrial complex are much happier and much energized by Wang Qi Shan Anti Corruption program.
Promotions are 99.6% based on one's own merit & performance now.
Personal connection does not really count anymore.
Hence, faster and faster technological breakthrough are rising on the surface.
Well, it is all my own 6 cents speculation.
Please feel free to correct me if I am wrong.
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JayBird
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JH-XX or H-18 have totally different role to Hypersonic UAV or manned aircraft I don't think one is related to the other at all.
The technological breakthrough don't have anything to do with anti Corruption program as all these projects didn't started the last few years, it just came to fruition at this time.
GreenestGDP
Junior Member
Many thanks for sharing your feedback.
Firstly, my knowledge on military equipments are extremely pedestrian.
My own understanding is ... ... ( using Abundance mindset practise by China leadership -- not Scarcity ( zero-sum ) mindset practise by you-know-who )
At least for the moment, in order to avoid future nuclear exchange between China and you-know-who, both JH-XX and Hypersonic UAV will be use to show the (you-know-who-leaders) that China can deliver conventional payload to any you-know-who city at ease.
The purpose is not to show-off that China can, but to make you-know-who back down and stop confronting and stop harassing China at every opportunity it gets.
So China can go about her own business of achieving more and more economic prosperity for all nations, and explore the outer space ( Moon, Mars, and so on ).
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#1) base on the assumption above, ... ...
In what ways does the mission purpose of JH-XX or H-18 differ from Hypersonic UAV drone ?
#2) IMHO, the faster rate of Technological Breakthrough in China could well be significantly caused by Anti Corruption program.
Because, competent and top performing scientists are in charge of the main project and subproject now. The inferior performing scientists / inferior leaders who are around because of their personal connection are demoted and no longer has much sway to block the progress of competent and top performing scientists.
#3) Competent and top performing scientists who no longer have the MENTAL burden of being blocked or hindered by inferior performing scientists / inferior leaders, get energized by this new cleaner ( much less corruption ) working environment.
The combined efforts of these top performing scientists energies
create a buzz of synergistic technological breakthrough, where ( 1 scientist +1 scientist ) =/= 2 scientists, but ... ...
Now, the new cleaner working environment ( much less corruption ) formula is ... ...
( 1 scientist * knowhow +1 scientist * knowhow ) = 11 scientists * knowhow
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As skywatcher said on the last page, it may be two decades until a large, viable hypersonic vehicle capable of carrying sufficiently large payloads can be developed.
For all the hype surrounding the recent hypersonic UAV test, it was likely far smaller than any true functional UAV.
For a hypersonic strike UAV to truly make an aircraft like JH-XX redundant, it would have to be able to carry similarly large loads and with a similarly great range and have a similarly great take off weight... all while being able to achieve hypersonic speeds. The demands of all that exceeds the current industrial base, and cannot be developed and built in any short amount of time and requires a great deal of further research and testing.
JH-XX on the other hand, can potentially be developed with significantly less research and testing, and depending on how much resources they allocate to it, they can potentially get a flying plane within a few years, as much of the technology and many of the subsystems and even materials technology is likely within their grasp.
Like I said before something must be up with this JH-XX or H-18 project with so much chatters about it the last few weeks. From GrassRoot posting the line drawing to BaiWei's new CG. It's hinting re-start of the project or some breakthrough was make with the on going project that was kept secret. My wishful thinking maybe....
Here is another guy (某某某某 from CJDBY)with his version of the JH-XX. Although his CG art is not as skillful as GrassRoot and BaiWei, but who knows maybe his version will look closer to the real thing. Let my avatar fly!
Interesting that this CGI shows underside intakes, where the model clearly depicts upper.
Anyway, getting posted on Huitong's site is definitely one step closer to credibility for this plane... I remember a year or two back H-18 was posted on there as well, and we were all burned by PSed pictures which didn't even look anything remotely like the black model we saw.
Hopefully things will be different this time around.
A part of me just wants SAC to build a prototype and fly it, I don't even necessarily care too much about it entering service at this point, I'd just like to see what this looks like in real life. I feel like its design has the potential to be one of the "greats" in recent military aviation.