H-20 bomber (with H-X, JH-XX)

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manqiangrexue

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charles18 said:
How can a plane?
A) weigh less
B) carry more
C) fly further
You have to make a choice, give up something to gain something else
Nope.....you cannot have D) all of the above.
That is impossible.
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The whole point of technological advancement is to have D) All of the above. That's how humanity progresses. I'm not saying this has already happened as pertinent to this design but I'm saying that improvements in all parameters is not only possible but it is done every day.
 
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gelgoog

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rcrmj said:
China's next gen bomber is similar to B2 and B21. The size is between B2 and B21, due to different strategic and tactical requirements from the U.S, China's next bomber needs to have longer range and carry more loads than B21. What really interesting is its AI assisted system and advance optical sensor system``````
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The Chinese H-20 will be quad engine. There is little point in making another twin engine aircraft when they have the J-20.
This means the H-20 will have similar or better payload than the US B-2. Given latest WS-10 or WS-15 engines. It will basically use a non-afterburning variant of those engines.
 
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tacoburger

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charles18 said:
How can a plane?
A) weigh less
B) carry more
C) fly further
You have to make a choice, give up something to gain something else
Nope.....you cannot have D) all of the above.
That is impossible.
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It's very possible with more efficient engines, more aerodynamic body, composite materials and advanced manufacturing greatly lowering the weight etc etc. Not saying that the H-20 does weight less, carry more and fly further then the B-2/B-21, but it's possible.

The real choice is

A) Improvements in every almost every aspect over previous generations of planes
B) A cheap plane

You cannot pick both.
 
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tacoburger said:
It's very possible with more efficient engines, more aerodynamic body, composite materials and advanced manufacturing greatly lowering the weight etc etc. Not saying that the H-20 does weight less, carry more and fly further then the B-2/B-21, but it's possible.

The real choice is

A) Improvements in every almost every aspect over previous generations of planes
B) A cheap plane

You cannot pick both.
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He misread what was wrote to begin with.

The idea of H-20 being between B-21 and B-2 in size (aka bigger than B-21, smaller than B-2), and having the ability to carry more payload and and have longer range than B-21 is completely reasonable if not intuitive.
Instead, he misread it as "H-20 smaller than B-21, while having more payload and longer range then B-21".


FWIW, rumours about H-20 being likely bigger than B-21 (then known as LRS-B) with a higher payload and range requirement has been something that has been somewhat accepted for the last five or more years, so it's not like this is new stuff either.
 
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defenceman

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Hi,
another late leak to come out may be the outcome of B 21 and some
more espionage about the characteristics of the machine, so in case
Chinese side has to do more work on their project either to surpass the
USA machine or next to it
thank you
 
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Inque

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Aniah said:
That's a good thing. It would be concerning if leaks started to come left and right out of nowhere. Screams security issues if that were the case and thankfully it isn't.
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Either there's no news or leaks because of a lack of progress on the bomber, or there's no leaks because of good counterintelligence. Take your pick.
 
lcloo

lcloo

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Inque said:
Either there's no news or leaks because of a lack of progress on the bomber, or there's no leaks because of good counterintelligence. Take your pick.
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H20 would appear just like J20 did. There was no news or leaks before J20's suddent appearance, which surprised United States Secretary of Defense Robert Gates during his visit to China, obviously even CIA couldn't obtain the intel to inform Gates.

H20 would be far more secretive than J20 because of its strategic value in nuclear strike capability, thus it should be at the very top of classified info level just like type 09V nuclear submarine. Anyone who leaks the news won't be just going for tea drinking, they might not be able to see their family and friends for the rest of their life time.
 
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rcrmj

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there are key rolls that H-20 is going to play in the future`````very much like the B21, these two new stealth bombers are going to revolutionize future land and sea warfare.

Apart from nuclear deterrence, it is not only a platform that can carry $hit loads of smart weapons, hovering around in the mission zone, release weapons at the point of indication of target, but also a crucial sensor "node" in the battle field, a key node that supports the next gen information centric battle management system.

In the arena of sea warfare, in both PLAN and USAN, they will become the major "fire squared" to eliminate high value assets instead of ballistic missiles and aircraft carrier for the former and latter
 
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