H-20 bomber (with H-X, JH-XX)

Tomboy

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I believe a modified H-6 would be able to do the job. The "Beijing Hammer" ALBM has a striking resemblance to the JL-1. Perhaps there's a slot in the H-6 belly, or the JL-1 has folding fins. But I feel like the JL-1 is the official designation to the Beijing Hammer.
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H-6N is specifically built for this it seems
 

00CuriousObserver

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Today while discussing the maiden flight of the second B-21 Yankee, Shilao and Ayi again implied that H-20's requirement grew out of needing to be able to fit something like JL-1 inside an IWB.

In fact they implied that PLAAF needed a large ALBM with great range like JL-1 because of relatively lack of performance of H-6 variants against B-52 and Tu-95. And in turn these large ALBM then created the updated requirements for H-20.

While I really appreciate the updates from the trio, I hope you guys can post as much of the transcript and translation as possible, or at least a timestamp, instead of just a summary. Their podcast is often very cryptic, where exact phrasings are important and are often open to interpretation.

Timestamp starts at around 34:00
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Yankee: JL-1 — the reason it's made so large is still because the bomber's basic performance sets the limit (he then talks about how the H-6 is inferior to B-52 and Tu-95)

Yankee (a bit later): Because JL-1 caused the H-20 to be redesigned.

Yankee: How should I put it…

Shilao: You've got it backwards.

Ayi: Yeah, it's indeed backwards.

Yankee: Well… it's technically correct.

Shilao: It's… technically correct… but it doesn't mean what you're implying.

Ayi: The exact words were "Because JL-1 caused the H-20 to be redesigned", that's not wrong

Yankee: Right, right, if you put it that way, it's correct.

Ayi: That's exactly what was said, not wrong.

Yankee: Yes, but… the direction is wrong.


They then agreed to leave the remaining details for later, so we don’t know conclusively what the relationship is. It’s not guaranteed that the H-20 will carry JL-1.
 

Tomboy

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While I really appreciate the updates from the trio, I hope you guys can post as much of the transcript and translation as possible, or at least a timestamp, instead of just a summary. Their podcast is often very cryptic, where exact phrasings are important and are often open to interpretation.

Timestamp starts at around 34:00
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Yankee: JL-1 — the reason it's made so large is still because the bomber's basic performance sets the limit (he then talks about how the H-6 is inferior to B-52 and Tu-95)

Yankee (a bit later): Because JL-1 caused the H-20 to be redesigned.

Yankee: How should I put it…

Shilao: You've got it backwards.

Ayi: Yeah, it's indeed backwards.

Yankee: Well… it's technically correct.

Shilao: It's… technically correct… but it doesn't mean what you're implying.

Ayi: The exact words were "Because JL-1 caused the H-20 to be redesigned", that's not wrong

Yankee: Right, right, if you put it that way, it's correct.

Ayi: That's exactly what was said, not wrong.

Yankee: Yes, but… the direction is wrong.


They then agreed to leave the remaining details for later, so we don’t know conclusively what the relationship is. It’s not guaranteed that the H-20 will carry JL-1.
It could also simply mean JL-1 exists now, it took over some of the mission requirements from H-20 and hence is now redesigned to account for that. Also, if H-20 do turn out not to be a cruise/ballistic missile carrier would there be another H-30 or whatever that is a Tu-95/B-52 equivalent? H-6 is extremely lacking is basically everything compared to the most modern Tu-95/B-52.
 
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