Great Fictional World War III book (China & allies VS US & allies)

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Well, I mean these ASAT are ASM-135 I think wich are rather old and only few still exist to my knowledge. So what I inteded, if the US for whatsoever reason decided to build new ones, it could be centered around the PAC-3s since they offer more recent technologies.
 

Jeff Head

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Well, I mean these ASAT are ASM-135 I think wich are rather old and only few still exist to my knowledge. So what I inteded, if the US for whatsoever reason decided to build new ones, it could be centered around the PAC-3s since they offer more recent technologies.
I agree. If the PC-3 had the capability to reach that high when launched from an F-15 at say, 50,000 ft, then it certainly would represent newer technology, and the later variants of the Patriot are, as I understand it, hit-to-kill capable.
 

Tasman

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In reality, it would not be a "new" type of fASAT weapon. The US already developed and successfully tested and then manufactured ASAT weapons in the 1980s to be fired from F-15s. In the book, early on, when the US takes out the PRC satellites, this is what they used.

Of course, in the book, what the US then found out, was that the PRC also had an ASAT capability (which they have now proven in real life) and in turn took out many of the US satellites.

I thought the type of warhead used by the PRC ASAT weapons in Dragon's Fury was an interesting concept and it seems to my (admittedly non technical) mind that it should actually work quite well in an orbital environment.

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Jeff Head

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I thought the type of warhead used by the PRC ASAT weapons in Dragon's Fury was an interesting concept and it seems to my (admittedly non technical) mind that it should actually work quite well in an orbital environment.

Cheers
In essence...what the PRC tested a few weeks ago is the same type of weapon. They insert it into the orbital track of the oncoming satellite and either a proximity fuse, or simply the energy of the two objects colliding destroys the sat.

Thanks for reading the series and I hope it was an enjoyable read.
 

Tasman

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In essence...what the PRC tested a few weeks ago is the same type of weapon. They insert it into the orbital track of the oncoming satellite and either a proximity fuse, or simply the energy of the two objects colliding destroys the sat.

Thanks for reading the series and I hope it was an enjoyable read.

I thoroughly enjoyed Dragon's Fury. I think it is an excellent 'what if?' book as it has enough realism to make the reader think it could actually happen, albeit with a lot of different scenarios playing out simultaneously.

In light of the tragic murders at VA Tech I found the gun ownership debate that you covered thoroughly in the book, particularly interesting. As I mentioned in another thread my own state of Tasmania in Australia suffered a major tragedy when 35 people (mainly tourists) were murdered by a lone gunman at Port Arthur. He was armed with a couple of assault rifles and was in a national park area where guns were not permitted so he was the only person in the tourist complex who was armed. Even an off duty policemen visiting the site was unarmed. As a result of the massacre politicians, fuelled by the popular media and the anti gun lobby, pushed through tough restrictions on firearms ownership and use.

Gun suicides have declined significantly though the over all suicide rate has stayed constant - people have just found other ways! Firearm related homicides have also declined but that decline had started before the new laws were brought in! What is alarming is that the use of guns by criminals seems to have actually increased. The trouble is that criminal gangs still seem to be able to get hold of banned firearms, etc, from the black-market.

Interestingly it is estimated that the number of guns in Australia has not reduced but the type of firearm has changed and there are tight restrictions on the storage and carrying of guns. Semi auto high powered rifles and shotguns, together with pump action shotguns, are banned other than for law enforcement and security organizations. Pistol ownership has been restricted since WW2 and these laws weren't changed though the anti gun lobby has used the VA Tech murders as 'evidence' that semi auto handguns should be completely banned, even for registered pistol club members.

If the terrorist attacks described in Dragon's Fury occurred in Australia, I am certain that citizens would respond as the armed American citizens did in the book, but most would be limited to using bolt action or lever action rifles or D/B or O/U shotguns. The Port Arthur killer did more to disarm Australians than any enemy country has ever managed in war.

Cheers
 
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Jeff Head

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I thoroughly enjoyed Dragon's Fury. I think it is an excellent 'what if?' book as it has enough realism to make the reader think it could actually happen, albeit with a lot of different scenarios playing out simultaneously.

In light of the tragic murders at VA Tech I found the gun ownership debate that you covered thoroughly in the book, particularly interesting. As I mentioned in another thread my own state of Tasmania in Australia suffered a major tragedy when 35 people (mainly tourists) were murdered by a lone gunman at Port Arthur. He was armed with a couple of assault rifles and was in a national park area where guns were not permitted so he was the only person in the tourist complex who was armed. Even an off duty policemen visiting the site was unarmed. As a result of the massacre politicians, fuelled by the popular media and the anti gun lobby, pushed through tough restrictions on firearms ownership and use.

If the terrorist attacks described in Dragon's Fury occurred in Australia, I am certain that citizens would respond as the armed American citizens did in the book, but most would be limited to using bolt action or lever action rifles or D/B or O/U shotguns. The Port Arthur killer did more to disarm Australians than any enemy country has ever managed in war.

Cheers
Ultimately, I believe...and it is nothing more than my own opinion...that people are going to have to stand and start fighting back when these horrible things occur. Just like the passengers on Flight 93 on 911, when they understood the complete gravity of the situation, they fought back. Although they died in the attempt, they certainly stopped the terrorists from completing their mission, whatever it was.

At some point, the rule will become in these mass murders, for the victims to attack and stop the attacker before more people are killed instead of following the current direction which is to close and lock the door and get under their desks.

As a rule, the police cannot and will not be everywhere at once, and such criminals are going to go where they believe they will have enough time to carry out their crime before they arrive, and where the people are not armed. In such a scenario, the people themselves will have to stop the perpetrator if the los of life is to be minimized.

Anyhow, that is what I tried to portray to some extent in the book with the terror attack on the Mall.

Thanks again for you kind words about the books and for taking the time to read it. Glad you enjoyed it.
 

Asymptote

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Super Sub Carrier :)

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Jeff Head

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Super Sub Carrier :)

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Nice pic. Pretty large, but the submersible carrier I envision in the book is even larger.

In addition, there looks to be a large inlet on the top of the vessel being constructed, amidships. That would seem to cause a lot of turbulence in any unerwater operations.

I wonder what this is actually a pic of?
 

King_Comm

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Okay a quick comment, the book is well written the details were good, however the plot line again falls to the generic "ZOMG! Evil commies r comin to take away our freedomz, and then, Team America turns the tide and saves the world, while delivering freedom to all". Which isn't very objective or realistic, of course I understand that your targeted readers are Americans, the book probably wouldn't sell if you write it any other way.

King_Comm, please use proper English when posting in this forum. The "u r" "r" "r u" "z" insted of s and other text message type abbrevations are not permitted.
 
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Jeff Head

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Okay a quick comment, the book is well written the details were good, however the plot line again falls to the generic "ZOMG! Evil commies r comin to take away our freedomz, and then, Team America turns the tide and saves the world, while delivering freedom to all". Which isn't very objective or realistic, of course I understand that your targeted readers are Americans, the book probably wouldn't sell if you write it any other way.

King_Comm, please use proper English when posting in this forum. The "u r" "r" "r u" "z" insted of s and other text message type abbrevations are not permitted.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and I thank you for sharing yours.

Of course the target market is American...although I have had a lot of Asian readers, even Chinese, who thanked me for showing that there are ways to assail much more advanced foes, and that nothing is a given. I intended to show very difficult straits for America arising out of existing conditions.

Many Americans were worried through the first two volumes of the book (originally it was written as a series of five novels) because through the first two and a half volumes it was not clear at all who would emerge victorious.

Quite franky, I tried to portray a message that the moral values of a people (and admittedly, I portray the traditional American/Western ones) can make a huge diffeence in the outcome of a conflict...as large a difference as the technology breakthroughs (in this case the Hail Storm technology...which is a direct fictional derivitive of the actual, existing Metal Storm technology). Those values can inspire an entire nation to do more than it otherwise may have thought possible...or otherwise would have accomplished. There is ample historical perspective for this.

Anyhow, that moral applies, IMHO, to all peoples...but that is just my opinion.

Again, thank you for your opinion and the time you took to read the book.
 
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