Great Fictional World War III book (China & allies VS US & allies)

Re: Great China VS U.S war book

Finn McCool said:

Hey Jeff, I know you're a perfectly fine guy but if your book really becomes very successful don't be suprised if someone calls you a xenophobic conservative crazy who wants to start a war with China. Obviously you're not any of those things, but with conservative politics embedded in the book, book critics and media-types will take an interest in needling you.

However that's as much of a bonus as a negative. A book with conservative politics built in comes with a ready-made audience. It's made for marketing .

But don't worry I'll stick up for ya.

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Well, I'll tell you something. I'm a democrat, and I'm more in the middle, not a complete liberal. When I can vote, I will vote for who I think is best for office, but I will have a blue bias. That having been said, I loved Jeff's book perhaps BECAUSE of the conservative stand. So, I dunno, alot of people out there would love to read his book as I have.

Re: Great China VS U.S war book

Finn McCool said:

Hey Jeff, I know you're a perfectly fine guy but if your book really becomes very successful don't be suprised if someone calls you a xenophobic conservative crazy who wants to start a war with China. Obviously you're not any of those things, but with conservative politics embedded in the book, book critics and media-types will take an interest in needling you.

However that's as much of a bonus as a negative. A book with conservative politics built in comes with a ready-made audience. It's made for marketing .

But don't worry I'll stick up for ya.

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Thanks Finn.

On this thread those accusations have already been pretty much made.

Folks will have to believe what they will I suppose, but I answered those comments as honestly and sincerely as I could, and honestly believe that anyone who has an honmest, sincere and reasoned discussion with me will know that I am decidedly not those things.

As it is, I am happy with the book and with is sales. It was something that I just had an itch or a feeling to do and accomplished it. I could find no publisher and agents were very expensive, so I researched that part and ended up publishing it myself. If it ever gets noticed and sold big time, rather than my own rather meager self-publication efforts...any of that type of publicity will probably only serve to boost sales as people check it out to see what all the hoopla is about.

In that regard, the old saying that any publicity is good publicity probably applies.

Re: Great China VS U.S war book

Killa_Dilla said:

I don't need to look it up. [smug face] I already know it means the Pacific Theater of Operations. I had two uncles that fought during the war. One of them died on Guadalcanal, the other was bayoneted while hiding in a bail of hay during the battle of the buldge while the Germans were retreating, but didn't give up his location. The Russians found him and took him as something of a POW during most of the Cold War before he was released.

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Great stories about your kin. That was a heck of an explosion that created that Crater...just goes to show that many plans do not survivie the onset of shooting.

Anyhow, I will really look forward to your jpg of the sub.

You can probably post it both here, and in the Aircraft Carrier thread in the World Military Forum on SD.

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coolieno99 said:

Japan built 3 large submarines during WW II that are capable of launching aircrafts. They were the I-400 class.

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I actually saw a documentary on the I-400 class. They were big; about 400 feet long. that's as long as the sub I am talking about. The Japanese sure knew how to build a sub. Them and the Germans both.

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Killa_Dilla said:

I actually saw a documentary on the I-400 class. They were big; about 400 feet long. that's as long as the sub I am talking about. The Japanese sure knew how to build a sub. Them and the Germans both.

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They were 393 ft long I believe, and displaced, full load, sonething like 6,500 tons, which meant that they could carry only three Seiran attack floatplanes that were launched from a rail on deck and landed in the water. They were housed in a hangar built on to the deck forward of the conning tower. 6,500 tons was huge at the time for a sub, but far too small to accomplish anything on the scael we are talking about.

Here's another few of pics:

The sub I depicted above would diplace 40,000 tons and would be well over 600 ft long and would have a large hanger deck below that very good szed flight deck.

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Jeff Head said:

They would be using the F-35 JSF in the VSTOL configuration probably. A shorter, EMAL catapault would be sufficient, taking off in a partial vertcal thrust setting, to get off the deck in a shorter period and with a fuller war load than current pure VTOL or Ski-Jumps afford.

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I find the idea of a submarine aircraft carrier fascinating. Of course there would be huge technical difficulties but aircraft like the F-35B VSTOL JSF, could make the concept feasible, though maybe not with large airgroups.

As mentioned earlier, the Japanese experimented with submarines that carried float planes. Before the I-400 class they built the smaller (but still large for the time) I-25 series and an aircraft from I-25 flew a reconnaisance mission over the port of my home city, Hobart, in Tasmania, Australia, on 1st March, 1942. It caused quite a stir.

I know that cruise missiles could probably cause more physical damage but even a small force of JSF type aircraft launched in a surprise attack by a submarine, could inflict severe psychological damage when they appeared over an enemy city, in much the same way as effect of the Doolittle raid against Tokyo in 1942.

It would be very interesting to see a design for such a carrier.

Cheers

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Tasman said:

I find the idea of a submarine aircraft carrier fascinating. Of course there would be huge technical difficulties but aircraft like the F-35B VSTOL JSF, could make the concept feasible, though maybe not with large airgroups.

even a small force of JSF type aircraft launched in a surprise attack by a submarine, could inflict severe psychological damage when they appeared over an enemy city, in much the same way as effect of the Doolittle raid against Tokyo in 1942.

It would be very interesting to see a design for such a carrier.

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In the novel, , which this thread is about, I go into some detail about a potential design in the last 1/3 of the book, amongst a LOT of other narrative.

In response to a reader, I posted a picture of that design concept in post 208. Here it is again. 40,000 tons, almost 700 ft long, 24-30 JSFs, 3 AEW V-22s and 3-4 ASW V-22 Ospreys.



There was also a Amphibious Assault ship version of the same design. in the novel, large, well protected Amphibious Assault groups began appearing out of nowhere off of hostile coasts.

Re: Great China VS U.S war book

Jeff Head said:

In the novel,

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, which this thread is about, I go into some detail about a potential design in the last 1/3 of the book, amongst a LOT of other narrative.

In response to a reader, I posted a picture of that design concept in post 208. Here it is again. 40,000 tons, almost 700 ft long, 24-30 JSFs, 3 AEW V-22s and 3-4 ASW V-22 Ospreys.

[qimg]http://www.jeffhead.com/dragonsfury/USN-SSCVN.jpg[/qimg]

There was also a Amphibious Assault ship version of the same design. in the novel, large, well protected Amphibious Assault groups began appearing out of nowhere off of hostile coasts.

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Thanks for that. I can see I have a lot of catching up to do in this thread. I've now downloaded the PDF file for your book which I suspect I will enjoy. I'm going to order it from Amazon. The illustration looks great! Given the size of the latest SSBNs, a jump to a 40,000 ton submarine may not be out of the question at some time in the future.

Cheers

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I must say I am finding the book thoroughly absorbing, even though it's frustrating having to read from a computer monitor. I'm looking forward to getting a hard copy.

Tas

Re: Great China VS U.S war book

Tasman said:

Thanks for that. I can see I have a lot of catching up to do in this thread. I've now downloaded the PDF file for your book which I suspect I will enjoy. I'm going to order it from Amazon. The illustration looks great! Given the size of the latest SSBNs, a jump to a 40,000 ton submarine may not be out of the question at some time in the future.

Cheers

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Here's a simple depiction of an entire submersible Task force on the move.

One SSCVN, one SSLPHN, one SSGN, and two SSNs.

Re: Great China VS U.S war book

Jeff Head said:

In the novel,

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, which this thread is about, I go into some detail about a potential design in the last 1/3 of the book, amongst a LOT of other narrative.

In response to a reader, I posted a picture of that design concept in post 208. Here it is again. 40,000 tons, almost 700 ft long, 24-30 JSFs, 3 AEW V-22s and 3-4 ASW V-22 Ospreys.

[qimg]http://www.jeffhead.com/dragonsfury/USN-SSCVN.jpg[/qimg]

There was also a Amphibious Assault ship version of the same design. in the novel, large, well protected Amphibious Assault groups began appearing out of nowhere off of hostile coasts.

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My problem with your design, Mr. Head, is that it looks unecessarily dangerous for a plane landing on it. It is for this reason why I opted for two separate takeoff and landing strips so that any planes landing would not be in danger of hitting the sail, not just destroying the plane but doing irreversible damage to the sail itself. Unfortunately, I was unable to upload my design yesterday, but perhaps tomorrow will yield better results.