Future PLAN orbat discussion

mack8 said:

How about a situation when the SSBN needs to run away from a pursuing enemy SSN? Of course this is needed only if the unthinkable happens, but if things got to that point the SSBN needs every ounce of advantage it can get to survive long enough to launch it's SLBMs.

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The SSN would be at most, 15knots faster than the SSBN.

Based on the ADCAP torpedo specifications, the SSN would need to get to within 10nm? for the ADCAP to hit an SSBN directly running away.

But the SSBN could launch torpedoes backwards at the noisy SSN. And the SSN is running directly into the path of the torpedo.

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I'm not against a SSBN being of a sailless design. But shouldn't they test out the sailless SSN design first, before deciding to use it on an SSBN?

vincent said:

Never dance to your enemy’s tunes. If the US and its vassals blockade the Indian Ocean, assemble your fleet and start an island hopping campaign towards the CONUS. 攻其必救。

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The moment China built a EMALS nuclear carrier the same or bigger than Ford is the moment it started to dance to the enemy's tune? China has larger economy and ship building than US so carrier parity is a matter of political decision if they ever want to fight US on blue waters in Indian ocean to protect oil imports. Otherwise, turtle shell in first island chain with limited war doesn't need any carriers or carrier parity.

Also, island hopping towards CONUS doesn't solve that oil imports from Middle East is cut off? Will US give up because it lost first and second island chain? There is no oil resources there to replace ME.

Phead128 said:

The moment China built a EMALS nuclear carrier the same or bigger than Ford is the moment it started to dance to the enemy's tune? China has larger economy and ship building than US so carrier parity is a matter of political decision if they ever want to fight US on blue waters in Indian ocean to protect oil imports. Otherwise, turtle shell in first island chain with limited war doesn't need any carriers or carrier parity.

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I was responding to your comment on sending PLAN fleets to the Indian Ocean to fight.

Phead128 said:

Also, island hopping towards CONUS doesn't solve that oil imports from Middle East is cut off? Will US give up because it lost first and second island chain? There is no oil resources there to replace ME.

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Crude imports will become less and less important to China, as amply demonstrated today