Future PLAN developments - new escorts, subs, LPH, carriers, etc

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KYli

Brigadier
Su-34 said:
How's the quality of PLAN submarine crews? Are the training for the crewmembers of the PLAN's Type 094 and Type 093s finished yet? Do any one here knows how many PRC citizens join the PLAN annually by average numbers?
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Having been stuck with the obsolete Romeo and Ming class subs for years, PLAN is only now slowly modernizing its subs fleet. The introduction of Kilo and Song only around 1998, even by then the PLAN crewmen were still inexperience(there are a lot of rumors of problem of crewmenbers).

I would honorly say PLAN crewmen still is not match up to western standard yet. But since few years ago, PLAN put in urgently order for training. Every crewman will train a new crewman in the subs. These kind of training might have been overdone, because an incident of ming few years back is partly blame on too many crewmembers in the sub. But it also bring into question that PLAN urgent needed of experience crewmembers to operate all the new subs that are coming out. These kind of urgency training would likely to improve quality of subs crewmembers greatly.

Type 93 has been under sea trial around 2001/02, so I would think the basic training is complete. Type 94 only has been introducted around 2004, so it might still needed some more time to finish the basic training.
 
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Su-34

New Member
KYli said:
Having been stuck with the obsolete Romeo and Ming class subs for years, PLAN is only now slowly modernizing its subs fleet. The introduction of Kilo and Song only around 1998, even by then the PLAN crewmen were still inexperience(there are a lot of rumors of problem of crewmenbers).

I would honorly say PLAN crewmen still is not match up to western standard yet. But since few years ago, PLAN put in urgently order for training. Every crewman will train a new crewman in the subs. These kind of training might have been overdone, because an incident of ming few years back is partly blame on too many crewmembers in the sub. But it also bring into question that PLAN urgent needed of experience crewmembers to operate all the new subs that are coming out. These kind of urgency training would likely to improve quality of subs crewmembers greatly.

Type 93 has been under sea trial around 2001/02, so I would think the basic training is complete. Type 94 only has been introducted around 2004, so it might still needed some more time to finish the basic training.
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Well, i hope PLAN submariners are trained as well as US Navy submariners by 2008. After all, what's the use of the quietest submarine in the world if the quality of the crew operating it is low. However, do anyone of you here knows whether the PLAN has mastered usage of Kilo class SSKs? Maybe there is someone here that has some insider scoop on PLAN developments, perhaps?:p
 
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KYli

Brigadier
Su-34 said:
Well, i hope PLAN submariners are trained as well as US Navy submariners by 2008. After all, what's the use of the quietest submarine in the world if the quality of the crew operating it is low. However, do anyone of you here knows whether the PLAN has mastered usage of Kilo class SSKs? Maybe there is someone here that has some insider scoop on PLAN developments, perhaps?:p
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I don't know anyone here have any insider information, probably not:D . If you are looking for insider scoop on PLAN developments, you should visit DS, warsky,etc. But I could probably safe to say that PLAN has mastered usage of Kilo, they would not order another 8 subs before they are fully sastified. The people at DS and warsky are saying that training and quality of crewmembers have improved.
 
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Lavi

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Personal opinion is that China is trying to make sure they are part of the big players on the international stage, and in that case they need a true blue-water capability. By the Cuban Crisis of 1962 the Soviet Union was largely focusing on subs, however, the crisis prooved that subs in peacetime can't project power, which is one of the main reasons why USA won (if that is the correct term) the crisis. China soon will, if they have not already, that on the political agenda in peacetime a CVBG ranks higher than subs, although subs perhaps would give more for the same money in war. We still have to remember that the armed forces still are the instruments of the government.

Last I would say that one thing PLAN urgently needs is a vastly updated and increased ASW-capability, mainly in the form of frigates (and destroyers to some extent) and airborne assets.
 
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