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it's cucumber season so it's quickly appeared in a major Czech server (), that's how I noticed
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La France va donner 31 avions Jaguar à l'Inde
Modifié le 20/07/2017 à 19:08
google translation follows:
Vivek Raghuvanshi, head of the Defense News office in India, told us that "the offer was made directly by Emmanuel Macron on June 3rd to a senior Indian official" and that " Discussions are not about a sale, but about a donation of these devices. " This last information was confirmed to us by a high-ranking French military source: it is indeed a gift. And this is not surprising: the devices are not worth much. In mid-July, the American company Atac bought 63 Mirage F1 from France, as well as 141 engines, for 21 million euros, in order to use them for the training of the US Air Force. Retired from service in 2014, these Mirage F1 are in much better condition than the Jaguar, put under cocoon 12 years ago, and yet worth less than 300,000 euros each.
Toward a second Rafale command?
The Indian Air Force Commander-in-Chief, Air Chief Marshal Birender Singh Dhanoa, was on an official visit to Paris from July 17 to 20 and probably discussed the issue with the French authorities. Vivek Raghuvanshi believes that "the discussions are progressing fast": an Indian delegation bringing together military and industrial must, he said, go to Chateaudun in mid-August "to inspect the aircraft."
This donation will enable the Indian Air Force, the last to use the Jaguar in the world, to consolidate its current fleet of 105 aging aircraft by recovering spare parts on French aircraft. The Jaguar thus returned to flight condition will not replace the additional Rafale that the Indian army claims to its government (which ordered "only" 36), but they will limit the damage pending a decision."
If a donation seems incongruous in the armaments sector, the agreement with India on the Jaguar is win-win: on the Indian side, the army will give a second wind to its old aircraft which will have to last longer than planned. And on the French side, the air force will get rid of planes that will not survive for a long time under their cocoon, and the government will score points with the Indians, which Dassault hopes they will pass a second order of Rafale very soon. Experts evoke 18 new Rafale aircraft, despite much higher requirements: in 2016, the previous Air Chief Marshal estimated that India needed 200 Rafale aircraft to secure its operational contract and to arm 42 fighter squadrons.
Even without a Rafale command, Emmanuel Macron has an interest in pampering Indian soldiers: contracts with French industrialists are numerous, for sale and maintenance of equipment, with the modernization of the Indian Mirage 2000 for example.
A well-known Indian plane
It is possible that India may appeal to Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) for the severance of the Jaguar convicted and for the restoration and maintenance of the Jaguar to fly. The Indian manufacturer had manufactured about 100 licensed Jaguars (from BAE Systems), and is also responsible for the huge Jaguar modernization project already in operation in India. The DARIN III program envisages that some sixty of these aircraft will have to be brought to a new standard within three years, in order to extend their service life to 2030 or 2035.
Contacted by us on Tuesday morning, the French and Indian authorities and armies had not responded to our requests on Thursday evening. Dassault did not want to comment.
Developed jointly by the United Kingdom (BAC, then BAE) and France (Bréguet then Dassault) via the joint venture Sepecat, the Jaguar has long been the beast of burden of the Air Force and the Royal Air Force, Leading numerous raids during the Gulf War or in Bosnia, for example."
La France va donner 31 avions Jaguar à l'Inde
Modifié le 20/07/2017 à 19:08
google translation follows:
"INFO - POINT.FR - Paris proposed to New Delhi to offer to him of old apparatuses of attack on the ground, probably in the hope of obtaining a new command of Rafale."
"It is now confirmed: Paris and New Delhi are in negotiations for the donation of Jaguar ground attack aircraft, designed in the 60s and retired by the French Air Force in 2005. The site Specialist Defense News said earlier this week that "very discreet discussions" were under way and involved 31 apparatuses currently under cocoon (and probably in poor condition) in Chateaudun (Eure-et-Loir).
Vivek Raghuvanshi, head of the Defense News office in India, told us that "the offer was made directly by Emmanuel Macron on June 3rd to a senior Indian official" and that " Discussions are not about a sale, but about a donation of these devices. " This last information was confirmed to us by a high-ranking French military source: it is indeed a gift. And this is not surprising: the devices are not worth much. In mid-July, the American company Atac bought 63 Mirage F1 from France, as well as 141 engines, for 21 million euros, in order to use them for the training of the US Air Force. Retired from service in 2014, these Mirage F1 are in much better condition than the Jaguar, put under cocoon 12 years ago, and yet worth less than 300,000 euros each.
Toward a second Rafale command?
The Indian Air Force Commander-in-Chief, Air Chief Marshal Birender Singh Dhanoa, was on an official visit to Paris from July 17 to 20 and probably discussed the issue with the French authorities. Vivek Raghuvanshi believes that "the discussions are progressing fast": an Indian delegation bringing together military and industrial must, he said, go to Chateaudun in mid-August "to inspect the aircraft."
This donation will enable the Indian Air Force, the last to use the Jaguar in the world, to consolidate its current fleet of 105 aging aircraft by recovering spare parts on French aircraft. The Jaguar thus returned to flight condition will not replace the additional Rafale that the Indian army claims to its government (which ordered "only" 36), but they will limit the damage pending a decision."
"Chouchouter New Delhi
If a donation seems incongruous in the armaments sector, the agreement with India on the Jaguar is win-win: on the Indian side, the army will give a second wind to its old aircraft which will have to last longer than planned. And on the French side, the air force will get rid of planes that will not survive for a long time under their cocoon, and the government will score points with the Indians, which Dassault hopes they will pass a second order of Rafale very soon. Experts evoke 18 new Rafale aircraft, despite much higher requirements: in 2016, the previous Air Chief Marshal estimated that India needed 200 Rafale aircraft to secure its operational contract and to arm 42 fighter squadrons.
Even without a Rafale command, Emmanuel Macron has an interest in pampering Indian soldiers: contracts with French industrialists are numerous, for sale and maintenance of equipment, with the modernization of the Indian Mirage 2000 for example.
A well-known Indian plane
It is possible that India may appeal to Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) for the severance of the Jaguar convicted and for the restoration and maintenance of the Jaguar to fly. The Indian manufacturer had manufactured about 100 licensed Jaguars (from BAE Systems), and is also responsible for the huge Jaguar modernization project already in operation in India. The DARIN III program envisages that some sixty of these aircraft will have to be brought to a new standard within three years, in order to extend their service life to 2030 or 2035.
Contacted by us on Tuesday morning, the French and Indian authorities and armies had not responded to our requests on Thursday evening. Dassault did not want to comment.
Developed jointly by the United Kingdom (BAC, then BAE) and France (Bréguet then Dassault) via the joint venture Sepecat, the Jaguar has long been the beast of burden of the Air Force and the Royal Air Force, Leading numerous raids during the Gulf War or in Bosnia, for example."