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navyreco

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I don't think we had such a thread yet so there it goes.

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In recent weeks, DCNS teams continued tests of Aquitaine (FREMM) Frigate's combat system. Among the operations, DCNS engineers have completed the loading of naval cruise missiles model (MBDA's Scalp Naval). Ultimately, the implementation of these missiles will give the FREMM class unprecedented ability for a European frigate to neutralize a target located several hundred kilometers in land.

The loading of these dummy missiles was conducted at the request of the French Procurement Agency (DGA) by DCNS teams, in conjunction with MBDA, the supplier of ammunition and testing facilities. These tests were conducted to confirm that teams could safely load Aster SAM missiles and Scalp Naval cruise missiles onboard the FREMM class Frigates.

"The success of these operations is an illustration of the general smooth running of the Aquitaine Frigate tests," says Vincent Martinot-Lagarde, FREMM program director at DCNS. "Thanks to the commitment of DCNS employees, the FREMM vessels are a reference, with the most advanced systems available."
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The crew of a British Hawk landed 17 January 2012 on the Landivisiau naval air base. Objective: To brief the pilots of the fighter fleet 12F and 17F to participate in training "Gaullic Marauder" to be held late January in England.

This briefing will allow pilots to operate in low altitude airspace UK. The NAO Landivisiau took the opportunity to plan in the early afternoon common training between a Super-Etendard Modernised and Hawk in an exercise DACT "Dysimilar aircraft combat training." This is a training exercise in combat between two aircraft of different types. The Hawk will leave January 18 in the morning for England.
 

bd popeye

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Navyreco I have questions about the Mistral class.

1) Have the bugs in the automation on board been solved?
2) Are the ships built to military or civilian standards? Or are they some sort of hybrid? Thanks!!
 

navyreco

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Gerry, I had to ask some friends "in the know" to be sure. Here are the answers:

Bugs are solved indeed. The head of class had issues, but now all is good as shown with Dixmude (3rd of class) that was delivered ahead of schedule

From a 2006 article:
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(google translation)

The combat system teething problems between the civil and military standards

First major Navy ship to be built to civilian ship standards, the Mistral would initially be delivered in June. After building fast at DCN Brest, the program had to slowed down sharply in late spring, during early testing of the combat system. The development has proved much more difficult than expected, not because of the complexity of the TCS, but because of its innovative. Thus, for the first time, the combat system incorporates not only the sensors military but also civilian radar, both for navigation and for the landing. "We gambled together, with the DGA, the combat system was simple and, therefore, we could simply ignore an integration platform to the ground. It was a mistake. In fact, the combat system was not simple because the surface watch and air watch radar area is expanded, and its data is a lot, "says director of operations for surface ships DCN. Jean-Pierre d'Hérouville: "Standards are civilian but military integration. Merging the two is not always possible. " Engineers and technicians of DCN were faced with a real headache, especially in power systems. However, after months of tests and testing of software, the industry seems to be the right way. The Navy, which accepted the ship "with reservations", is now confident, ensuring that the few remaining problems are not likely to disturb the operations conducted by the building: "We do not fear other problems" , said the commander of the FAN, noting that, ultimately, "It is a marriage highly successful on a technical level between civil and military standards." With this in mind and despite some adjustments remaining to be performed, the Mistral will begin its passage through long-term, prior to his admission to active duty. After participating in an amphibious exercise next week in La Rochelle, the vessel will head to the Indian Ocean, for testing in warm sea.

About civilian standard, this is from my friends:
Standards are civilian, but "special civilian" because merged with some military

If the standards and methods of construction are indeed those of the "civil", we must see that the conception and design of the Mistral class is military, both at the level of redundancy and combat resistance.
Moreover, the distinction between military and civil construction does not really matter anymore in France. The military shipyards have copied construction methods of the civil sector because it was the logical choice that should have been done long ago, and it applies to all classes of ships from the Floreal light frigates and La Fayette class. Next, depending on the class of ship, the construction is more or less traditional, more or less civil standards.


Nevertheless, we must not deceive ourselves. With the current level of automation and decreased crews, regardless of the type of design: the next French military ship that will take a missile or a torpedo will go to the bottom of the sea anyway. We no longer have enough crews to save a ship that had suffered such damage in combat, regardless of its design and construction methods. At best, a good design can not procrastinate and put off the vessel out of action immediately. But if the damages exceed the structural limits of the ship, the crew can best limit the damage, but not conduct repairs while ensuring action stations for combat.
It is simply a fact, although we often prefer to ignore it (and, indeed, except on US Navy design bar the new LCS with reduced crews, the fact is valid for almost every navy today).
 
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paintgun

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gotta love the euro frigates, thanks for sharing xav, and looking forward to updates, nothing like a firsthand source
 

navyreco

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Afghan soldier fatally shoots four French NATO troops
An Afghan army soldier fatally shot four French NATO soldiers and wounded at least 16 others in eastern Afghanistan before being captured on Friday, said a spokesman for the NATO-led International Security Assistance Force.
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France suspends Afghan military mission after attack on troops
France will temporarily suspend all training and combat operations in Afghanistan following a fatal attack on its troops, President Nicolas Sarkozy announced Friday. Four French soldiers were killed and at least 16 others were wounded earlier in the day in an attack by an Afghan army soldier.
 

navyreco

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Source : Dassault Aviation.
Istres, France, January 20th, 2012 - The nEUROn, European UCAV technology demonstrator, has been officially presented to the representatives of the six participating countries by Mr. Charles Edelstenne, Chairman & CEO of Dassault Aviation.

Mr. Serge Dassault, Honorary Chairman of the company, as well as the representatives of the nEUROn industrial team - Saab (Sweden), Alenia Aermacchi (Italy), EADS-CASA (Spain), HAI (Greece) and RUAG (Switzerland) - attended this ceremony.

This presentation is a major milestone after five years of design, development, production, assembly and the first static tests of the nEUROn demonstrator. The first engine tests will be performed very soon, aiming at a first flight mid-2012. Afterwards, a complete sequence of test flights will take place during two years in France, Sweden and Italy. These tests will address flight qualities, stealthiness, air-to-ground weapon firing from an internal bay, integration into a C4i environment as well as the insertion of uninhabited platform in airspace.


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bd popeye

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Wow! I had no idea France has an aircraft like this in R & D... Looks similar to the XB-47 UCAS.
 

bd popeye

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Ooops! look like I made a typo! My bad..I'm sure everyone knew what I meant.

I should have posted this...

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