F-35 Joint Strike Fighter News, Videos and pics Thread

Jura The idiot

Jura The idiot

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Air Force Brat said:
Six, 2000 lb J-DAMNS!
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OK but in Beast Mode I can see:
  1. 14 AMRAAMs in white
  2. 2 Sidewinders in white
  3. 2 AMRAAMs in green
  4. 6 JDAMs in green, and
  5. 2 Sidewinders in white;
so
  1. 14*
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  2. 2*
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  3. 2*335
  4. 6*2000
  5. 2*188
adds up to
14*335+2*188+2*335+6*2000+2*188 = 18112 pounds, which is not exactly what the graphics says for Beast Mode (22000)

(I leave the number of pylons to the LockMart Marketing Department LOL)

EDIT oh wait, should I add the internal 5700 to 18112 from Beast Mode? would be 23812 LOL!
 
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TerraN_EmpirE

TerraN_EmpirE

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Beast mode, is a hypothetical along the same lines as Russian Flanker and Folkrum heavy missile loads. Realistically it's not likely that the F35 would ever really pack on that much firepower. It's Rambo and His duel M60. It just shows the potential. The Pylons are real though.
 
Jura The idiot

Jura The idiot

General
TerraN_EmpirE said:
Beast mode, is a hypothetical along the same lines as Russian Flanker and Folkrum heavy missile loads. Realistically it's not likely that the F35 would ever really pack on that much firepower. It's Rambo and His duel M60. It just shows the potential.
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great job by the Sales Department! increasing the combat power immensely by this CGI!


TerraN_EmpirE said:
The Pylons are real though.
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"The aircraft’s weapon station includes three external pylons on each of the two wings with a combined capacity of 6,800kg. Moreover, there are two internal bays with two pylons each with a combined payload capacity of 8,100kg."

according to what I now briefly found in google inside
F-35 Lightning II Joint Strike Fighter CTOL Variant
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so how would they distribute the white missiles:
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Jura The idiot

Jura The idiot

General
TerraN_EmpirE said:
The Sidewinders on in the outer wing tip stations, 4 AmRaam in the internal the inner wing stations are able to carry more weapons so 3 each there and 2 on the mid wing stations. For 14 Aim 120 and 2 Aim 9. Of course it's hypothetical.
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OK (LOL) and how do you explain the payload of 22k pounds? what did I miss Yesterday at 9:36 PM
Jura said:
OK but in Beast Mode I can see:
  1. 14 AMRAAMs in white
  2. 2 Sidewinders in white
  3. 2 AMRAAMs in green
  4. 6 JDAMs in green, and
  5. 2 Sidewinders in white;
so
  1. 14*
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  2. 2*
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  3. 2*335
  4. 6*2000
  5. 2*188
adds up to
14*335+2*188+2*335+6*2000+2*188 = 18112 pounds, which is not exactly what the graphics says for Beast Mode (22000)

(I leave the number of pylons to the LockMart Marketing Department LOL)

EDIT oh wait, should I add the internal 5700 to 18112 from Beast Mode? would be 23812 LOL!
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FORBIN

FORBIN

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Air Force Brat said:
Six, 2000 lb J-DAMNS!
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Advantage over F-16 for F-35 6 big bombs vs 4 but logic he is more big

16 AAMs with 14 AIM-120 : 6 in internal weapons bays for Block 5 normaly possible block 4 and 8 with adaptor on 4 ext HPs as other US fighters have but never we have see
So for me actualy max 10 AAMs...

But fact is with Helmet but now a lot of type fighters have and mainly coupled with DAOS as F-35 have have normaly also J-20 it is an advantagefor the short game
other fighters do the difference pointing the nose to the bandits and advantage for the more agile more fast in action for fired what you think ?
So even it F-35 is less agile the system compensates and even more maybe.

PS :
For F-22 I have see ... APG-77 is eventualy capable detected IR emission yes or no ?
 
FORBIN

FORBIN

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TerraN_EmpirE said:
Okay forbin, the F4 Phantom II lack of a gun as leading to the kill rate is not a controversy it's a contrivance. In actual fact there were three US services flying F4 Phantom II in the Vietnam war. The USN and USMC both flew gun less F4, the USAF flew a version of the F4 with a internal 20mm M61 Vulcan cannon. And throughout the war it was the USAF with the poorest Kill ratio. So what went wrong?
First the F4 was designed as an Interceptor not an air superiority fighter.
Second as I said the Gun equipped F4 of the USAF had the poorest Kill ratio. When the kill ratio improved for the phantom late war it was the USN and USMC F4 that got better, and even then it was not because of a Winchester, the vast majority of kills were with missiles.
What happened? Well it was a gun, TOP GUN the navy started taking more time to train there Aviators and maintenance crews.

A number of fighters still lack guns they are typically grouped into fighter bombers or interceptor.
Also F35 like the F4 Phantom II before it comes in flavors for the buyers. The F35A of the USAF has a gun. The F35B SVTOL version and the Carrier F35C use a gun pod. The Air to Air missile is the system of choice and the weapon that makes the vast majority of air to air kills.
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I can't check all variants Budd... and posted a book ;) but fact is in 2030's F-35A are about 1750 on almost 2000 fighters with F-22 so especialy for police sky USAF need a bird with a gun... all civil aircrafts suspect are intercepted with eventual warning shots... it is not a ennemy fighter with 1 driver... this duty is essentialy the job of the ANG Active also but mainly disponible for deployments or war remains Reserve but she have only 3 F-16 Sqns
 
Jura The idiot

Jura The idiot

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Yesterday at 9:36 PM
Jura said:
OK but in Beast Mode I can see:
  1. 14 AMRAAMs in white
  2. 2 Sidewinders in white
...

(I leave the number of pylons to the LockMart Marketing Department LOL)

...
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... actually now I looked at what F-35 fanbois said and it would've required six internal AMRAAMs ("ultimately eventually undoubtedly will be" available) and doubling AMRAAMs on external pylons (in fact available for for example the Hornet) ... LOL! it's New Year's Eve so why don't I make some F-35 fanart:
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