F-35 Joint Strike Fighter News, Videos and pics Thread

kwaigonegin

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I agree Kwai, but the lovely little ThunderHogge II is growing on me, kinda like the Republic P-47, a little bigger, but in some ways better aircraft. The F-35 does share a lot of DNA with the Raptor, and compared to the princess, the little ThunderHogge isn't a super-model, but more girl next door?? LOL

Nope, she ain't going to win any beauty contest. IMHO the most beautiful crafted fighter design currently is the Rafale.

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anyway back to the F35.
 

Jeff Head

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I really like this pic of the flight of five F-35 Alphas out of Eglin. It's the most I have seen together in formation in the air at one time to date:


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Reminds me of the flight of ten Raptors over near Langley a few years back:


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...and as to her looks, well, here are a few really pleasing photos of the F-35 in my opinion:


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TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
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Nope, she ain't going to win any beauty contest. IMHO the most beautiful crafted fighter design currently is the Rafale.

anyway back to the F35.

MEh To Euro, Yuck Canards needs a tail. Raptor baby.


Aviation Week
First F-35 Assembled In Italy To Roll Out Early Next Year

Aerospace Daily & Defense Report
Amy Butler
Wed, 2014-12-10 07:32
Officials in Italy are preparing for the rollout of their first F-35A from the final assembly and checkout (FACO) facility at Cameri Air Base in northern Italy early next year.

That first aircraft is slated to roll off the line by March 2015.

Italy invested about $1 billion in building the facility amid political infighting about the status of purchases for the fighter; it began operations last year. Cameri is the site of Italy’s hub for long-running Eurofighter Typhoon and Tornado work.

The military leadership there had hoped to assemble at least 250 fighters at the FACO, including Italy’s original plan for 131 fighters in addition to the Netherlands’ original plan for 85.

Though the final numbers are up in the air, Italy designed the FACO with significant work growth in mind. Rome is likely a top contender as the Pentagon assesses options for a heavy airframe repair in Europe; an announcement on the final selection is expected early next year.

Italy opted to forgo the “moving” production line originally envisioned for Lockheed Martin’s Fort Worth facility. Rome has, however, installed 11 workstations suited for final assembly work, including four for the electronic mating and assembly system (EMAS) customized for F-35 work. These are the same EMASs used in Fort Worth. But at least five workstations were designed for maintenance, repair and overhaul (MRO) tasks there, and some can be reconfigured should more MRO work be needed.

Italy’s design was aggressive by nature. Defense officials estimate there is $18.6 billion in economic opportunity for local business associated with MRO work, Lt. Gen. Domenico Esposito, who heads the Italian air force’s procurements, told Aviation Week last year.

Meanwhile, work on constructing Japan’s FACO in Nagoya continues; construction began in May. The first major subcomponents are slated to be loaded into Japan’s electronic mate and assembly tooling – the same tooling used for assembly at Lockheed Martin’s final assembly plant in Fort Worth – in December 2015.

The first four of Japan’s 42 F-35s will come from the Forth Worth plant. The first Japanese assembled F-35A is slated to roll off the line in Nagoya in fall 2017, with delivery for operations in 2018.

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Air Force Brat

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MEh To Euro, Yuck Canards needs a tail. Raptor baby.




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Actually, I'd have to say the PAK-FA is the Anna Chapman of fighter aircraft at the moment, kinda like a flying surf-board, lots of wing, horizontal stabs, LERX, and cute little ruddervators, for pure fighter fun, we'd have to put PAK-FA way up on the list, if I were going to fly an airshow, in a modern fighter aircraft, first would be PAK-FA, Raptor, Typhoon, (yes, you know I don't like CANARDS, but if ya gotta have em, anhedral makes em look so KOOL), J-15S, F-15,,,,, and the Tornado, I just like the looks of the Tornado, oh and last but not least FC-31, Mig-29, well I could go on, I love em all!
 
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I have been following here the "F-35 against A-10 funding" controversy (http://www.sinodefenceforum.com/wor...trike-fighter-thread-120-5796.html#post314556 and:

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The House and Senate appropriators merged the plans their respective committees had approved for blocking the Air Force’s plans to retire its A-10 attack plane fleet. They adopted the House panel’s language and the Senate committee’s funding level.

Adopted as a floor amendment, the House language would prohibit the service from using any 2015 funds to retire its A-10s. The Senate Appropriations Committee passed a defense spending bill that proposed $338 million to keep the A-10s flying for one more year.

?The bill would give DoD at least $240 million more than requested for the F-35 fighter program to buy four more jets than planned.
 
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The beat goes on.

Let me say something about the heating issues that are being sensationalized of late. This is not a new issue. It is something that has been accounted for for some time and has been designed to operate as it does in order to provide additional cooling at very particular points in the service envelope of the aircraft.

These people know exactly what they are doing and why...and these intial anomolies as the aircraft is being rigorously tested and policy and procedure being developed for its specific operations prior to IOC can easliy be latched onto by people who are opposed tothe program for whatever reason.

I personally do not view this issue at this point as a major issue.

As I have said before. Will there be issues? Will there be problems? Yes to both.

Will they be resolved? Yes.

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thunderchief

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F-35, competitors equally capable for most missions: report

A highly-anticipated, government-commissioned report on the F-35 and its competitors shows little difference between the four warplanes when it comes to the vast majority of missions they will be required to perform.

The only major exception is fighting against another country, though the report says such an event is “highly unlikely” to occur in the future, and even then, “the government is not obliged to undertake such a mission.”

The findings are expected to set off another round of bitter debate in the House of Commons and defence circles over whether the government should move ahead with purchasing the F-35.

In particular, critics will likely hold the report up as proof the F-35 isn’t the only aircraft that can meet Canada’s needs, and that a fair and open competition is the only way to ensure the best plane at the best price.

Tabled in the House of Commons on Wednesday, the report represents the culmination of the Conservative government’s F-35 “reset” after Auditor General Michael Ferguson blasted its handling of the stealth fighter project nearly three years ago.

Overseen by an independent panel of experts, defence officials spent a year re-examining the F-35 as well as the Eurofighter Typhoon, Dassault Rafale and Boeing Super Hornet to determine if the aircraft could adequately replace the military’s aging CF-18s.

Two versions of the report were produced, one for the government that provides a detailed breakdown of the warplanes’ capabilities, and the public version released Wednesday that removed commercially sensitive information.

The report identifies six missions Canada’s next fighter jet will be expected to fulfil. Those include defending Canadian airspace, participating in a Libya-style bombing mission, responding to a terrorist attack, and assisting in a humanitarian emergency or natural disaster.

However, the report says historically, domestic and North American missions have accounted for at least 90 per cent of the work done by Canadian fighter jets.

“Moreover, 80 per cent of the missions flown by the fleet have related to the ability to protect Canadian air space from intrusion,” it adds. “This function is projected to continue to be the most important role of the Canadian fighter capability.”

The report shows all four aircraft were capable of protecting Canadian airspace and performing four of the other missions with minimal risk. “This was due to the fact that most of these missions involve relatively low level of threat and are less onerous for fighter aircraft,” the report says.

The exception was war with another country, where some of the aircraft were at greater risk than others “due to the higher level of potential threat confronting fighter aircraft in that mission,” the report says. There are also concerns about countries rolling out new high-tech defences.

The report does not specifically identify which of the four fighter jets is best or worst, only that at least one of the planes would face significant risks in fighting another country in the 2020-2030 timeframe, and at least one would face high risks beyond 2030.

F-35 proponents, including the Conservative government and defence officials, have suggested it is the only fighter capable of countering the threat posed by advanced militaries because of its stealth characteristics.

Yet the report also says that “Canadian engagement in future state-on-state conflicts will be highly unlikely” and the more probable scenario is a combination of warfare and humanitarian assistance, as is happening in Iraq.

At the same time, the report notes that, unlike protecting Canadian air space, the government can pick and choose whether it wants to participate in foreign military interventions, with one factor being whether the new fighter jets are equipped for the mission.

France-based Dassault, which produces the Rafale, released a statement late Wednesday welcoming the report, which it says shows “that all fighter aircraft evaluated can meet the RCAF missions and deliver strong economic benefits to Canada.”

“Clearly the only way for Canada to move forward with selecting a new fighter aircraft is with a full, open and transparent competition,” it added.

The Conservative government, which has had the report since April, has refused to say whether it plans to move ahead with buying the F-35 or hold an open competition. Most analysts don’t expect a decision until after next year’s federal election.

Instead, the government has ordered the CF-18s to be upgraded to operate through 2025. The government has refused to say how much that upgrade will cost, but the report puts the cost at $400 million.

Meanwhile, a separate Industry Canada report also tabled Wednesday says the four companies had all laid out plans for bolstering the Canadian economy with jobs and other benefits should their aircraft be chosen to replace the CF-18.

“All companies demonstrated in their submissions that their previous experience working with offset programs in Canada and abroad would allow them to successfully provide benefits to Canada,” the report reads.

The Citizen reported Tuesday that a separate National Defence report showed that while officials still expect Canada to pay about $46 billion to own and operate 65 F-35s through 2052, the cost of the aircraft is continuing to rise.

Specifically, National Defence now has only $76 million in wiggle room for purchasing 65 F-35s within the Conservative government’s self-imposed $9-billion budget envelope as the price of buying the warplanes rose $266 million, or three per cent.

Defence officials estimate they will actually need more than $1 billion in contingency funds to protect against the effects of a weaker Canadian dollar, inflation and other countries cutting back on how many planes they purchase.

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The US Defense Department has chosen the European nations to which it will assign heavy airframe and engine maintenance for the Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II.By 2018 heavy airframe maintenance, overhaul, repair and upgrade (MORU) will be provided by Italy. The UK will pick up any additional work needed following a review that will take place about five years into the programme, says Lt. Gen Christopher Bogdan, head of the Pentagon’s F-35 joint programme office (JPO).Turkey will take the lead on maintenance of the Pratt and Whitney F135 engine and establish the necessary infrastructure to perform tear-down, rebuild and test by 2018. Within two years of that deadline, Norway and the Netherlands are to have established the same capability.

The UK will only take on airframe maintenance duties if demand outpaces Italy’s ability to handle it. However, the JPO knew off the bat engine maintenance would have to be split between several countries.​
 

asif iqbal

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Great news for Turkey after all they have extensive collaboration with Lockheed Martin
 

aksha

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Royal Norwegian Air Force Col. Odd-Steinar Haugen, the Norwegian national deputy in the F-35 joint program office, signs the AM-1 center fuselage as part of the ceremonial delivery ceremony hosted Dec. 4 by Northrop Grumman.

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