F-22 Raptor 5th Generation Stealth Fighter

Re: F-22 Raptor: The New Threat to the PLAAF

do pakistans f-16s feild the elta-2052? i think so, but im not sure.

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vincelee said:

the Russians currently field Cassergrain and slotted array radars. BARS is one generation gap ahead, being a PAR. Panda is a slotted array radar.

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sokol should also be PAR.

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does sokol actually exist?

anyway, Zhuk-MSE also seems to be a PAR.

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And MiGLeader, why the hell would the Jews sell their most advanced radar to a muslim state? Do they want to commit suicide?

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vincelee said:

does sokol actually exist?

anyway, Zhuk-MSE also seems to be a PAR.

PS.

And MiGLeader, why the hell would the Jews sell their most advanced radar to a muslim state? Do they want to commit suicide?

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nope, I'm guessing it's still under development, but Zhuk-MSE has finished testing. It really makes you wonder how the Zhuk series is so far behind the bar series. And yeah, MSE is slotted array.

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vincelee said:

does sokol actually exist?

anyway, Zhuk-MSE also seems to be a PAR.

PS.

And MiGLeader, why the hell would the Jews sell their most advanced radar to a muslim state? Do they want to commit suicide?

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the isrealis and pakistanis have never had a war, and have never been in huge conflict. jews have 200 nukes, paks have 50. whos should be scared?
miltant? hardly. and the us sold the radar, not israel.

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MIGleader said:

the isrealis and pakistanis have never had a war, and have never been in huge conflict. jews have 200 nukes, paks have 50. whos should be scared?
miltant? hardly. and the us sold the radar, not israel.

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Pakistani volunteers were involved in the Arab Israeli wars. It was only recently that the Pakistani recognized the israeli state.

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i saidf major conflict. volunteers? spain had em ww2. america had em in the arab iraeli wars.

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I have my doubts now on the stealthiness of the F-22 as "Air-to-air combat would rely on passive detection of transmissions by hostile aircraft, as well as infrared tracking. However, these techniques are of marginal effectiveness against other stealth aircraft, explaining the limited application of stealth to the Advanced Tactical Fighter." (Azn boy's article) and the F-22 has an active radar with a curved @$$. A ground station might not detect it, but a plane can probably detect the F22's wave head on or see its @$$ from behind or on top.:coffee:

FB-22? That's going to be a joke.

J-7s attacking a F22? No way will it win, unless the Raptor is leaving already and you are at Mach 2, single column.

And stop drifting off topic!ff

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crazyinsane105 said:

Now, let us begin our discussion. The F-22 is the biggest threat to the PLAAF and in general, the Chinese military. Is there anything that the PLAAF can do to counter this plane (assuming that Congress decides to allow the production of several squadrons of it)? I am trying to find an article in which I read that a squadron of F-15's (probably the E versions) are trying to "defeat" the F-22. So far, they have had no luck.

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Hmm, thats a tough cookie EMP weapons would probobly be a good thing

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Jones Henry said:

Hmm, thats a tough cookie EMP weapons would probobly be a good thing

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EMP weapons? Well, unless they make an airburst version of it. The problem with stealth aircraft is that it's possible to detect them, but guiding missiles TOWARDS the aircraft is a completely different story.