European Economics Thread

luminary

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The US continues beating a dead horse. Scathing report.

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To recap: The critical minerals carveout doesn’t do anything for the EU until it gets mines and processing facilities up and running. Brussels’ proposed policies are also no match for the IRA. And the US will continue to enjoy windfalls from exporting LNG to Europe and poach European industry.
A quick note on the latter: the spin in Europe now appears to be that the IRA "actually isn’t that bad", and they’re now blaming themselves for "overreacting". Consider this recent piece from Reuters, “
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.” It goes on about how Europe "already has its own subsidies" before this part buried towards the bottom:
A survey of the German Chamber of Commerce and Industry (DIHK) released on Wednesday showed one in 10 German firms plan to move production to other countries, and North America came out as the region with the brightest business prospects. One reason cited was energy costs.

Belgian central bank governor Pierre Wunsch said Europe’s higher energy and carbon emission prices were likely to be have a greater impact than the IRA, which might for some companies be “a final straw”.

“It’s possible in some very energy-intensive sectors, new activities will go the U.S. or maybe Asia, but we will gain in others just because the exchange rate will adjust,” he said.

What was it that they said
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? Ah yes.
“Yes, we are a partner of the United States, but we are not a vassal state!"
Sure, whatever you say buddy.
 

siegecrossbow

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The US continues beating a dead horse. Scathing report.

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What was it that they said
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? Ah yes.
“Yes, we are a partner of the United States, but we are not a vassal state!"
Sure, whatever you say buddy.

Confucius say: if Uncle Sam stick big cannon in, crying no use, wait happy ending.
 

gelgoog

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It is only going to get worse in the future. A large fraction of European exports is cars, car parts, aircraft, and aircraft parts. Cars are moving into electric, and China dominates most of the market there. China and Russia will also be doing their own civil aircraft increasingly over the next decade. Europe has also proven itself as an unreliable supplier of these after sanctions on Russia. At the same time, they just cut themselves out of their largest commodities supplier, so nearly every single commodity is going to get more expensive.

Europe will de-industrialize it is as simple as that. Their exports are increasingly non-competitive.
 

pmc

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when you look at graph the trade balance collapse already started in 2021 when it became 1/3 of 2020. The lockdown of 2020 were better than 2021. 2022 went into big negative and they already have medicine shortages in Germany from November. so presumably not importing at full capacity. excess death at record in December. trade deficit in January 2023 already 35b euro when you consider mild winter and lowest energy price of recent time.
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As a result, the EU recorded a €34.6 bn deficit in trade in goods with the rest of the world in January 2023, compared with -€38.6 bn in January 2022. Intra-EU trade rose to €345.7 bn in January 2023, +12.1% compared with January 2022.

Airbus plays very minor part. Total revenue of EADS is $60b. it cannot help with this scale of trade deficit when cheaper tickets are supposed to be eliminated. It may be reduced to only selling wide body aircraft. full impact of Ukraine crises will be few years down the line along with American Inflation reduction act. increase manpower and resources dedicated to Nato will take manpower away from domestic economics. foreigners will impose there own imports requirement on society.
take Finland
I am sure Indians need Indian grocery stores and what they suppose to build? with such sub optimum intake. Canada can absorb ten times this figure yearly.

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Just in the last 12 months, over 7500 Indians applied for a resident permit.
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