Espionage involving China

siegecrossbow

siegecrossbow

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Just found a great side-hustle idea — find research paper from Chinese internet (Stephen Chen made a career out of this), censor parts of the test data and convert the result into a pdf document, and sell it on the dark web for 4K USD a page. Which of you Wumaos is up to the task???
 
Aniah

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siegecrossbow said:
Just found a great side-hustle idea — find research paper from Chinese internet (Stephen Chen made a career out of this), censor parts of the test data and convert the result into a pdf document, and sell it on the dark web for 4K USD a page. Which of you Wumaos is up to the task???
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Count me out, I'm actually looking forward to getting a citizenship and living in China in the future.
 
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Elevenz

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siegecrossbow said:
Just found a great side-hustle idea — find research paper from Chinese internet (Stephen Chen made a career out of this), censor parts of the test data and convert the result into a pdf document, and sell it on the dark web for 4K USD a page. Which of you Wumaos is up to the task???
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Speaking of Stephen Chen, the x user posted here cites him in his x article. He brings up this SCMP article in his more recent article.
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Title: Chinese scientists break design ‘curse’ that killed US Navy’s X-47B drone programme​

Has anyone else read the x article? I’m no expert but the author seems to make logical leaps and assumptions. To me, it reads like a person encountering Chinese research for the first time and trying to connect random dots together. Citing Stephen Chen is already a red flag. He brings up these articles and then starts claiming that the leaks show earlier versions of the software padj-x but I don’t see how the images support this. He doesn’t seem like he knows what he’s talking about but I’m no expert.
Also, the main reason to doubt these leaks would be that if they truly contained what they are claimed to have, only state level entities would be interested in buying. No normal person would buy this or afford this unless you really need to win that warthunder argument.
 
Aniah

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Elevenz said:
Speaking of Stephen Chen, the x user posted here cites him in his x article. He brings up this SCMP article in his more recent article.
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Title: Chinese scientists break design ‘curse’ that killed US Navy’s X-47B drone programme​

Has anyone else read the x article? I’m no expert but the author seems to make logical leaps and assumptions. To me, it reads like a person encountering Chinese research for the first time and trying to connect random dots together. Citing Stephen Chen is already a red flag. He brings up these articles and then starts claiming that the leaks show earlier versions of the software padj-x but I don’t see how the images support this. He doesn’t seem like he knows what he’s talking about but I’m no expert.
Also, the main reason to doubt these leaks would be that if they truly contained what they are claimed to have, only state level entities would be interested in buying. No normal person would buy this or afford this unless you really need to win that warthunder argument.
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I haven't looked through the documents or read any of the articles, but from what I've gathered here, most of what the hacker is selling seems to just be things that were already in the open. Not sure how legitimate the rest are, but I find it weird and doubtful that all, if any, of the top secret stuff would be placed into a place like this.

This looks more like a collection of old patents and data notes, but I'm no expert at this, so this is just the perspective from a casual observer.
 
siegecrossbow

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Aniah said:
I haven't looked through the documents or read any of the articles, but from what I've gathered here, most of what the hacker is selling seems to just be things that were already in the open. Not sure how legitimate the rest are, but I find it weird and doubtful that all, if any, of the top secret stuff would be placed into a place like this.

This looks more like a collection of old patents and data notes, but I'm no expert at this, so this is just the perspective from a casual observer.
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Actual military data are not connected to the internet at all. Look up air gapping.
 
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Michaelsinodef

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Aniah said:
That's pretty neat. Then I suppose this hack really is a nothingburger.
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This might not even been a hack in the first place.

Possibilities of an elaborate scam using old public papers from scammers to MSS fishing using such old data is still possibly.

Even with the further info that it was over 6 months with a big botnet.

It would still be 55 TB flowing out a day (avg'ed 5 gb a second connection) to do 10 pb over 6 months
 
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ForcedTrend

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Michaelsinodef said:
This might not even been a hack in the first place.

Possibilities of an elaborate scam using old public papers from scammers to MSS fishing using such old data is still possibly.

Even with the further info that it was over 6 months with a big botnet.

It would still be 55 TB flowing out a day (avg'ed 5 gb a second connection) to do 10 pb over 6 months
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and Ai to generate the data based on old public papers to make it look credible
 
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