DoD 2011 annual military report on china is out

siegecrossbow

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If that's the case then I think it's counterproductive and the DoD is very disingenous. While I don;t expect or even want them to reveal any Top Secret type material but to purposely distort some facts and hypothesize China's military prowess based on 'lesser' data is a terrible practice. Besides the public here is a relative term. The average 'Joe Q. Public' is never going to be interested in reading something like this anyway. Only people like us would.

They are interested in distorting the facts for "people like us" my friend. The average Joe they can distract with mass media very easily. Besides the fact that it is launched by the Pentagon gives the report an air of authority. We have to keep in mind that these are the same people who invested in psychic espionage and thought that the MIG-25 was a super fighter, however. Ends to a mean or means to an end?
 

SampanViking

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I think, were I a US taxpayer; certainly under the current economic circumstances, I think I would be asking that if the contents of this report were true , how is it that China can produce and field this level of capability for only a fraction of what it costs to maintain the Pentagon & DoD?
 

delft

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The main concern of DoD must be its budget. That will influence all they say about the capabilities of other countries. Think of China and Iran, but also Great Britain and Australia. But they can safely expect that few will ask SampanViking's question.
 

kroko

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This. The idea that the dod doesn't know about the other aircraft carriers is ridiculous.

The DoD cant do what you guys are saying. See my post nº 595 on the carrier operations thread on the reasons why.

what would be the point of oculting PLAN´s new carriers ??
 

Red Moon

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I think, were I a US taxpayer; certainly under the current economic circumstances, I think I would be asking that if the contents of this report were true , how is it that China can produce and field this level of capability for only a fraction of what it costs to maintain the Pentagon & DoD?
Of course, DoD could purchase weapons systems from China :).
 

siegecrossbow

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I think, were I a US taxpayer; certainly under the current economic circumstances, I think I would be asking that if the contents of this report were true , how is it that China can produce and field this level of capability for only a fraction of what it costs to maintain the Pentagon & DoD?

Cause although a considerable portion of China's budget is wasted on corrupt military officials, they still have enough decency not to spend billions on air conditioning units?
 

Krabat1976

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The 5-10 ten years China need to develop a 5th generations engine is still vague statement. The problem of China in mastering turbofan still exists. But if the 2018 date for full J20 service is referred to a J20 with WS15 that could be a good sign. After all WS10 is in mass production (J11 and J15, maybe J10B in future) now and is used on J20, so maybe with "advanced military engine" they are referring to better engines, comparable with best of russia, eu and us.
 

xywdx

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I think, were I a US taxpayer; certainly under the current economic circumstances, I think I would be asking that if the contents of this report were true , how is it that China can produce and field this level of capability for only a fraction of what it costs to maintain the Pentagon & DoD?

Were you an average US taxpayer, you would simply answer that China's stuff will all fall apart after a month, that's why it's only a fraction of what it costs to maintain the Pentagon & DoD. :rolleyes:
 

no_name

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If that's the case then I think it's counterproductive and the DoD is very disingenous. While I don;t expect or even want them to reveal any Top Secret type material but to purposely distort some facts and hypothesize China's military prowess based on 'lesser' data is a terrible practice. Besides the public here is a relative term. The average 'Joe Q. Public' is never going to be interested in reading something like this anyway. Only people like us would.

The average joe won't read them, but the senators and congressmen might.
 

bd popeye

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The average joe won't read them, but the senators and congressmen might.

Exactly.. Most unfortunately many Americans could not find China on a map.

All many Americans know is that the US owes China a lot of money and the US purchases a lot of goods from China.

There is nothing classified in the report. The report is written to keep the China threat alive so those defense dollars do not slow to a trickle..Why? The US DoD must cut $500 billion dollars from it's budget in the next few years.
 
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