Dispelling false propaganda, misinformation and bias.

Randomuser said:

Does this need a separate thread for a bunch of reddit trolls?

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In addition to my previous reply to you, I think giving the proper and accurate definition of what "Chinese" is, is extremely important as well, especially for people that are ignorant or foreign to such topics.

Playing with these semantics or intentionally messing them up is one of the most common tactics used by sinophobic people from my own observations, they do this when they know they have no legitimate arguments which is most of the time.

Expert1324 said:

In addition to my previous reply to you, I think giving the proper and accurate definition of what "Chinese" is, is extremely important as well, especially for people that are ignorant or foreign to such topics.

Playing with these semantics or intentionally messing them up is one of the most common tactics used by sinophobic people from my own observations, they do this when they know they have no legitimate arguments which is most of the time.

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I think the reason why mods gave a warning was because after a certain point you move the conversation to the dms instead of it keeping on the threads so that other conversations can be discussed as well.

A potato said:

I think the reason why mods gave a warning was because after a certain point you move the conversation to the dms instead of it keeping on the threads so that other conversations can be discussed as well.

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Thanks for the explanation.

But it doesn't help when some people in that thread cannot help themselves but to start throwing personal insult towards me for no good reason when we are having differing opinions about Russia (I personally still feel animosity towards them due to their past crimes and involvement in the century of humiliation and current day borders eating into our lands, which I think is more than reasonable. While some commentors are more pragmatic about the relations with Russia. But the worst of all are the ones who are there to glaze Russia for absolutely no reason and turn combative when you don't agree).

Having differing opinions is fine, but personal insults and harassment because you cannot contribute to the conversation in a meaningful manner is not. And the mod instead of confronting some of the commenters there who started to insult me and make fun of my username (what a primary school level bullying!), he decided to give the warning to me instead and threaten to mute me.

Imagine how I feel?? You can even see one of the joker there who participated in the personal insults against me on that thread followed my account just to harass me again on this current thread. I think this is a very pathetic behaviour, and the people involved should be ashamed of themselves.

I am very disappointed in everyone here except for @FriedButter and @resistance who are very reasonable and rational people that treated me with basic respect even if our opinions might not be completely the same.

Expert1324 said:

Tang dynasty for instance, is a dynasty that is one of the most ethnically diverse and vibrant period in Chinese history

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Tang dynasty was essentially a continuation of the Xianbei ruled state of Northern Wei. The majority of the most powerful and influential noble/military families of the Tang were mixed Xianbei-Han noble families from Northern Wei. The first Tang emperor himself was half Xianbei, and belonged to one of the eight great noble families of Northern Wei. His mother was a Northern Wei princess whom was actually the sister in law of both the first Sui emperor as well as the last emperor of Northern Zhou (successor to Northern Wei). Northern Wei -> Northern Zhou -> Sui -> Tang was essentially just a series of internal coups carried out by different generals from among Northern Wei's Xianbei-Han military aristocracy.

WTF is this post. Are we going to call out every stupid redditor we disagree with?

TK3600 said:

WTF is this post. Are we going to call out every stupid redditor we disagree with?

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How are people this clueless? This is absolutely not about replying to "one redditor we disagree with", that redditor is just a representation of tons of similar bad faith actors and sinophobes making the same BS arguments to push their anti-china agenda, and my post is to dispelling everything with facts once and for all. Such record keeping is very necessary.

This kind of mindset like yours is exactly why China is historically so bad at soft power projection. Many small things we think that are not necessary or unimportant ends up making a difference.

Anyone has a clue what is the background of this news channel?

They literally came out of nowhere and with absolutely zero traces on the internet and absolutely no results on google search, but managed to gain hundreds of thousands of followers overnight. I find it particularly suspicious after their channel translated many many Chinese content wrong for a lot of their coverage about china or involving chinese leaders. And this is mistranslation is always at a detriment to china. That is way too much coincidence for me.

Expert1324 said:

How are people this clueless? This is absolutely not about replying to "one redditor we disagree with", that redditor is just a representation of tons of similar bad faith actors and sinophobes making the same BS arguments to push their anti-china agenda, and my post is to dispelling everything with facts once and for all. Such record keeping is very necessary.

This kind of mindset like yours is exactly why China is historically so bad at soft power projection. Many small things we think that are not necessary or unimportant ends up making a difference.

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I mean that's their problem. People have free will to make their own decisions. They want to waste their entire lives being wrong that's their problem. A lot of people refused to be saved coz of various reasons. I have no obligation to save them.

I remember Reddit constantly saying how Robert Mueller would find something on Trump being part of Russia or some crap and Trump would get ousted. Thousands of upvotes of people being so convinced they had something. You know what happened in the end? NOTHING. Imagine you wasted thousands of hours constantly arguing with these people who were so convinced they were right only to have a anti climatic end where it turns out they never had a case to begin with. And will they reflect on it ? Of course not. They will waste hours telling us how Harris would certainly win. Maybe they didn't even believe it coz they were just paid shills. Doesn't that make it worse then?

These people still annoy me. But I care less these days coz I realize I don't have any obligation to save them. They'll probably be wrong in the end. What matters is China focuses on winning where it actually matters.

FriedRiceNSpice said:

Tang dynasty was essentially a continuation of the Xianbei ruled state of Northern Wei. The majority of the most powerful and influential noble/military families of the Tang were mixed Xianbei-Han noble families from Northern Wei. The first Tang emperor himself was half Xianbei, and belonged to one of the eight great noble families of Northern Wei. His mother was a Northern Wei princess whom was actually the sister in law of both the first Sui emperor as well as the last emperor of Northern Zhou (successor to Northern Wei). Northern Wei -> Northern Zhou -> Sui -> Tang was essentially just a series of internal coups carried out by different generals from among Northern Wei's Xianbei-Han military aristocracy.

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By that logic, Qing would be a continuation of Ming since Kangxi is half-Han.