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delft

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The most costliest cyberattack? I thought China has cost American corporations in the hundreds of billions...
The allegation was that Chinese hackers had stolen technological information that was worth hundreds of billions of dollars. But would China or any other country have paid such an amount if those corporations would have been given permission to sell it by the Pentagon that will large have paid for developing the technology? Those estimates belong to the lies, damn lies and statistics domain. Except that it puts a poor light on the cyber security practices of the corporations ( but Heh, all other corporations are just as incompetent ) it suggests that the corporation concerned must be extremely valuable if some hacker can get away with stuff of so much value - and that is good for the share price.
 

solarz

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The allegation was that Chinese hackers had stolen technological information that was worth hundreds of billions of dollars. But would China or any other country have paid such an amount if those corporations would have been given permission to sell it by the Pentagon that will large have paid for developing the technology? Those estimates belong to the lies, damn lies and statistics domain. Except that it puts a poor light on the cyber security practices of the corporations ( but Heh, all other corporations are just as incompetent ) it suggests that the corporation concerned must be extremely valuable if some hacker can get away with stuff of so much value - and that is good for the share price.

This is basically the same logic used by the MPAA: they assume that everyone would buy their albums at the dictated price, and calculate their "losses" based on that.
 

AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
The idea that they can so easily change or forget the title holder of who's responsible for the most costliest cyber attack brings into scrutiny their credibility since accusing China of costing US corporations hundreds of billion of dollars is vastly more than what has happened with Sony Pictures. And that also means they can just as easily lie and point the finger of responsibility at someone else.
 

AssassinsMace

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CNN yesterday was first with the "exclusive" that the FBI was going to name North Korea as the guilty party which was supposed to happen today in a news conference. That didn't happen. But I'm sure it will happen because blaming North Korea serves special interests. On CNN today they were speculating on punishment which included targeting some Chinese banks the NK government uses. North Korea is an easy target to blame and the reasons why makes it also hard to punish. Punish China should they dare especially if NK is not responsible.
 

siegecrossbow

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On topic of the recent Sony hacking.

I think it is pretty funny how most people thought that North Korea has "hyper-advanced" hacking capabilities since they were able to breach the network of a major company. As a matter of fact, I think that Sony should shoulder most of the responsibility due to the awful security measures they implemented (stuff like putting passwords in excel files named "password-1").

Worse. What's there to prevent competition from stealing their data and maintain a degree of secrecy about it? I think that the loud-mouthed North Korean hackers provided a much needed "wake-up call" for Sony. Hopefully they'll fire their "security experts" and do some major revamping.
 

AssassinsMace

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The layer of bull is so thick, it's hard to tell what's the truth or not. I read an article that said the high level of alarm is because Sony Pictures did have a high level of security on their systems and yet these hackers were still able to penetrate. CNN for the past couple days has been charging that NK had to have help which pointed the finger at China. Then in Obama's press conference this morning he was asked if another country helped NK and he said there was no evidence of it. I've been watching CNN since and they been pushing every expert they have interviewed to try to say China had to have helped. CNN hasn't learned from its Boston bomber coverage where they looked liked fools being caught reporting false information. Also they've added Iran and Russia as accomplices despite Obama declaring that there's no evidence other countries were involved.
 
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AssassinsMace

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Sony should have released it to theaters but it might not have been under their control since movie theater chains chose themselves not to screen the movie.

Here's another article questioning if it was North Korea.

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Ghost

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The one connection linking North Koreans computers with the Internet has been taken out by a retaliatory 6Gbps DDoS attack.

On the topic of the actual hacking, the sheer list of security measures that Sony didn't implement is almost criminal in itself. It is of note that Sony CISOs tend to have DoD/USGov backgrounds. If these guys don't encourage/implement measures like not storing all your passwords in an unencrypted plaintext file labeled "passwords" or letting any random executable file run on their network with no blacklisting procedures, it will be interesting to envisage what the security of the US government network may be like.

Sony - Security operational? Not yet.

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North Korea's negligible Internet connectivity appears to have faltered. First spotted by Internet performance management firm Dyn Research, North Korean routers have been inaccessible, and its scant IP allocation—just 1024 addresses—appears to be offline.

Arbor Networks reports that North Korean systems have been sporadically under attack for several weeks, and that a sustained attack started earlier today. The attacks appear to be a mix of Network Time Protocol (NTP) and Simple Service Discovery Protocol (SSDP) amplification attacks, that allow attackers even with modest resources to generate large floods of traffic.

Arbor's analysis suggests that the volume of traffic itself is not considerable; it peaked at just shy of 6Gbps on 20th December. That such a trickle of traffic is able to knock North Korea offline is testament to the country's virtually non-existent infrastructure. All of North Korea's Internet traffic passes through a peering connection with China Unicom; it's not known what the bandwidth of the connection is, but it's almost certainly less than 10Gbps. And almost all of the network within North Korea is restricted to the capital city, Pyongyang.

The big question, of course, is who's responsible. With North Korea an easy victim to take down, the list is long. Anonymous has voiced its collective discontent at North Korea over the withdrawal of the film The Interview and promised retaliation. Lizard Squad, a group that also claims to be responsible for much larger denial of service attacks against Xbox Live and others, also claims responsibility.
 

AssassinsMace

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Now there's articles showing up that question if it's North Korea? The media are manipulators because they themselves played along since it was a better story that the US was being assaulted by another country than a non-state actor. Was the FBI inept? No, blaming North Korea gives dividends in return for the US's North Korea policy. Again some want to force China to do something as is always called for when North Korea comes up and even punish China using North Korea as an excuse. As for Sony I read that if it turns out to be terrorism as they continue to call it, that relieves the burden of responsibility open to lawsuits galore. If it turns out to be a disgruntled employee, Sony Pictures is wholly responsible for its lax security protections on personal information of its employees being compromised.
 
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