CV-18 Fujian/003 CATOBAR carrier thread

[Lethe]

CSIS's point is meaningless. I can also say that the great number of commercial vessels orders will take up the construction of navy ship.
in other words, it will slow down the speed of navy ship construction and launch.

Indeed:

1962 marked the beginning of a major naval construction effort. A long-term program to expand China's shipyards began, emphasizing facilities for the construction of naval vessels largely at the cost of merchant ship construction. Dalian shipyard, for example, had been China's leading builder of merchant ships; by 1964, naval programs comprised the majority of Dalian's activity, and by 1967 there were no merchant ships under construction there at all.

CSIS shouldn't be worried about Chinese shipyards building merchant vessels. They should worry when they stop building merchant vessels.

 

[Helius]

It seems they omitted the side crane.
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[Kich]

CSIS's point is not that its not standard practice (which it is, incl in eg Germany) but that exactly these kind of synergies will of course benefit PLAN, and this needs to go into strategic considerations. But it's a bit of a "whats the sound of one hand clapping"-point, given private companies will chose the vendor that suits their needs, they dont let political considerations flow into that unless they risk breaking laws. So its IMO all a tad academic.

With that logic, you can also argue China should stop ordering Boeing Commercial planes because they benefit USAF and USN whom Boeing also makes military planes and jets for.

What an interesting cold war we're in. Both US (+Europe) and China are so interlink in trade and economy that the lines have become blurred. US is just not sure how to play this game this time around. "Boy, the Soviets were much easier to deal with"

 

[sheogorath]

Is it not standard practice for shipyard to be doing both types of order together?

only anglo shipyards are allowed to do so.

 

[MwRYum]

With that logic, you can also argue China should stop ordering Boeing Commercial planes because they benefit USAF and USN whom Boeing also makes military planes and jets for.

What an interesting cold war we're in. Both US (+Europe) and China are so interlink in trade and economy that the lines have become blurred. US is just not sure how to play this game this time around. "Boy, the Soviets were much easier to deal with"

CSIS would not dare to pen that in, else to risk anger a major patron.

 

[banjex]

Cease this OT CSIS BS.

 

[Richard Santos]

With that logic, you can also argue China should stop ordering Boeing Commercial planes because they benefit USAF and USN whom Boeing also makes military planes and jets for.

What an interesting cold war we're in. Both US (+Europe) and China are so interlink in trade and economy that the lines have become blurred. US is just not sure how to play this game this time around. "Boy, the Soviets were much easier to deal with"

the difference is there are still considerably more ship building options around the world then there are commercial airliner vendors.

 

[Ndla2]

the difference is there are still considerably more ship building options around the world then there are commercial airliner vendors.

In the long run I'm sure China will join the rank of Boeing and Airbus as the world's top 3 airliners manufacturer.

 

[taxiya]

the difference is there are still considerably more ship building options around the world then there are commercial airliner vendors.

Seriously you really dare to talk before you study, as always.

It has been a long time that the shipbuilding market are devided by China, South Korea and Japan. It looks like this.

China is about equal to Japan and South Korea combined. The is NO other options around the world other than the big three. Excluding China by US is like China excluding Boeing in its airline market which is exactly what @Kich was saying.

 

[allenzhou]

Seriously you really dare to talk before you study, as always.

It has been a long time that the shipbuilding market are devided by China, South Korea and Japan. It looks like this.
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China is about equal to Japan and South Korea combined. The is NO other options around the world other than the big three. Excluding China by US is like China excluding Boeing in its airline market which is exactly what @Kich was saying.

you are right!!!!