CV-18 Fujian/003 CATOBAR carrier thread

Blitzo

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My impression, or this seems small for a 80000t carrier? seems like a type 01/02 with catapults. I could be wrong of course, but thats what it seems.

I think it looks a decent amount bigger or at least wider than CV-16/17.
The angle of the photo means we obviously can't see how long it is, but we can estimate how wide it is by comparing the wingspan of the J-15 on the port/bow catapult and comparing it to the width of the flight deck at that area, and then to take a similar picture of Liaoning with J-15 and compare that ratio...

That can give a simple guesstimate for how wide the flight deck of the carrier might be, and based on my own eyeballing it seems to be bigger than CV-16/17.
 
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My impression, or this seems small for a 80000t carrier? seems like a type 01/02 with catapults. I could be wrong of course, but thats what it seems.
The Type 001A's dimensions are as follows:
Length 315 m
Beam (waterline) 38 m
Beam (deck) 72 m
Draught ~ 11 m
Comparing that to the Nimitz which is the largest of its kind
Length 317 m
Beam 43 m
Draught 11.3 m

So dimensions wise the type 001A aint small, rather it is a pretty decent size for a 60,000t carrier. If the 002 follows the same dimensions with an increase of 5-10 meters on each aspect, the differences will not be readily visible.
Taking the Kitty Hawk dimensions for comparison :
Length 320.6 m
Beam 39.60 m
Draught 11.40 m

All in all the 002 shown in the picture is seems about just right.
 

Intrepid

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Comparing that to the Nimitz which is the largest of its kind
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Beam 43 m
Ford and Nimitz class have a beam of 40.8 meters at the waterline. The widest aircraft carrier at the waterline was (still is - because it is a museum) CV 41 Midway at 44.2 meters, having received additional lateral buoyancy space during a 1986 shipyard stay.
 

Gustaf Adolf

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The Type 001A's dimensions are as follows:
Length 315 m
Beam (waterline) 38 m
Beam (deck) 72 m
Draught ~ 11 m
Comparing that to the Nimitz which is the largest of its kind
Length 317 m
Beam 43 m
Draught 11.3 m

So dimensions wise the type 001A aint small, rather it is a pretty decent size for a 60,000t carrier. If the 002 follows the same dimensions with an increase of 5-10 meters on each aspect, the differences will not be readily visible.
Taking the Kitty Hawk dimensions for comparison :
Length 320.6 m
Beam 39.60 m
Draught 11.40 m

All in all the 002 shown in the picture is seems about just right.

According to
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the type 002 will be:
Length,overall 1075 / 331 m
Flight Deck Width 275 ft / 85 meters
Beam 130 feet (39 meters)
Displacement, full load
85,000 tons
 
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Ford and Nimitz class have a beam of 40.8 meters at the waterline. The widest aircraft carrier at the waterline was (still is - because it is a museum) CV 41 Midway at 44.2 meters, having received additional lateral buoyancy space during a 1986 shipyard stay.
The Midway's beam should be at 41 meters at the waterline ,not 44.2 meters. This is a similar length shared with the Ford, the Nimitz has 40.8 meters which is correct.
 
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According to
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the type 002 will be:
Length,overall 1075 / 331 m
Flight Deck Width 275 ft / 85 meters
Beam 130 feet (39 meters)
Displacement, full load
85,000 tons
TBH I will take what global security states with a bit of salt. Not because they have a tendency to exaggerate, but they usually obtain their sources via public media which is subjected to all forms of conjectures.
 

Intrepid

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The Midway's beam should be at 41 meters at the waterline ,not 44.2 meters.
Believe me, the ship was widened in 1987 again.

mid040105sd.jpg


... and with this 44.2 meters beam, it became unstable.
 
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Believe me, the ship was widened in 1987 again.

mid040105sd.jpg


... and with this 44.2 meters beam, it became unstable.

Do you have an exact measurement/citation source ? Because I have did some search and all available sources points towards 41 meters. The instability caused by the extension was real however.
 
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